Gas Bubble Disease in Maroon Clown?

Lionfish Lair · Mar 4, 2016

....... Oops

Lionfish Lair · Mar 5, 2016

I haven't found anything yet, but I'm still looking.

Lionfish Lair · Mar 5, 2016

One of the top 5 diseases of seahorses is Gas Bubble Disease. I'm going to go through some necropies and see what their reports said.

SandJ · Mar 6, 2016

Lionfish Lair said:
One of the top 5 diseases of seahorses is Gas Bubble Disease. I'm going to go through some necropies and see what their reports said.

Thanks for your help! And everyone else who has helped also [emoji4]

Are you able to see the pictures, or would you like me to text some of them to you @Lionfish Lair?

Lionfish Lair · Mar 6, 2016

They are very good pictures.

I don't think it had to do with the worms. He has them, because of the one embedded in the eye and then the one you found in the gut, but if worms caused that lesion, you would have found a lot more than that.

Do you know any of clown's history? He didn't try to treat treat a buoyancy issue by piercing the swim bladder, did he?

I would have loved to have cut into that mass. It reminds me of a thyroid neoplasm.

I'm not giving up, I still have a lot of resources to look through. I just need one tiny lead to head down the right trail. See if you can find out history.

SandJ · Mar 6, 2016

Lionfish Lair said:
They are very good pictures.

I don't think it had to do with the worms. He has them, because of the one embedded in the eye and then the one you found in the gut, but if worms caused that lesion, you would have found a lot more than that.

Do you know any of clown's history? He didn't try to treat treat a buoyancy issue by piercing the swim bladder, did he?

I would have loved to have cut into that mass. It reminds me of a thyroid neoplasm.

I'm not giving up, I still have a lot of resources to look through. I just need one tiny lead to head down the right trail. See if you can find out history.

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Is that part of the swim bladder on the piece of skin I removed (and circled in a previous picture)?

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The clown did not have any buoyancy issues until the day it died. That morning the clown went from ok to being on the bottom not able to swim or drifting to the top on a power head. Only thing different was that the transparent layer (that formed to bubbles or deflated balloon looking stuff) was not gone and there was a hole in the clowns side (that I assume the transparent layer had been covering).

I think when something happened to the transparent layer/bubbles, this allowed water to enter around the swim bladder. Could be totally wrong, but that is what I am thinking.
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I talked with the he previous owner some at our last marine club meeting. He purchased a tank setup and the clown came with it and was just like I received it. I can try and get more info [emoji106]

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I should have probably kept the mass, ugh, was not thinking. It would have been a week or more before I could have mailed it out to anyone due to the blizzard. It was very firm, did not see any fluid come out of it.
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I think that the white on the eye is from the towel it was on, I am not certain it was actually embedded into its eye (though I agree it looks like a worm). I removed few from the intestine and laid them out on the towel. They were not alive that I could tell.

Lionfish Lair · Mar 6, 2016

SandJ said:
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Is that part of the swim bladder on the piece of skin I removed (and circled in a previous picture)?

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The clown did not have any buoyancy issues until the day it died. That morning the clown went from ok to being on the bottom not able to swim or drifting to the top on a power head. Only thing different was that the transparent layer (that formed to bubbles or deflated balloon looking stuff) was not gone and there was a hole in the clowns side (that I assume the transparent layer had been covering).

I think when something happened to the transparent layer/bubbles, this allowed water to enter around the swim bladder. Could be totally wrong, but that is what I am thinking.
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I talked with the he previous owner some at our last marine club meeting. He purchased a tank setup and the clown came with it and was just like I received it. I can try and get more info

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I should have probably kept the mass, ugh, was not thinking. It would have been a week or more before I could have mailed it out to anyone due to the blizzard. It was very firm, did not see any fluid come out of it.
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I think that the white on the eye is from the towel it was on, I am not certain it was actually embedded into its eye (though I agree it looks like a worm). I removed few from the intestine and laid them out on the towel. They were not alive that I could tell.

It could be the swim bladder you circled. That's the color of swim bladders and it's a tough membrane... kindda.

For a fish with a big wound like that, osmoregulation would be out the window.

I think I totally know the feel of that mass. Firm with some bouncy give? It has a blood supply.