Giving up
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My Gem Tang Is Watching You
Rock isn't glued, so if I went bare bottom the rock would slide out and fall down.
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I have 3 wrasses in QT right now, but none of them are sand wrasses like leopard wrasses.
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993
Could happen with sand. Maybe it's time for a tank reset to deal with the rock structures? Drilling the rock with a masonry bit and using fiberglass rod will help keep it more stable. Jmtcw.
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I have one section pinned, the rest fit nicely together, but on a glass bottom it will slide out because of no side structure to hold it in place. with the sand it is solid.
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Will replacing my sand fix the Dino problem, or will it just come back?
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993
If it's still on your rocks, it will still be around unfortunately.
rkpetersen
walked the sand with the crustaceans
You can set up a temporary UV to deal with specific problems very quickly. Just need the sterilizer, a pump, some sections of tubing, clamps, and a valve. Put the pump in the first section of your sump and the effluent hose in the return section.
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So, the question no one really wants to answer is can the battle with Dinos really be won, or just managed. With any issue with the sand I had is it worth to just shut the tank down, do a complete tear down and bleaching. or should I replace the sand and battle the Dinos and maybe install a UV setup?
DirtDiggler2823
If I can't break it, it doesn't exist
DOS?
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993
A UV may help. I used one when needed. Doesn't help diatoms though in my case. I need a ICP test or get me a silicate test kit to know for sure.
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Billldg
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I'm guessing the first thing I can do is buy 80 pounds of sand and replace it and repipe my return piping to make room for a future UV sterilizer.
DanConnor
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Sure- dinos can be beat. Practically everyone has had them.
I had a problem with them in my current tank I couldn't kick until I hooked a UV directly to the display.
Since you don't have wrasses that need the sand, I would leave it out.
Rocks shouldn't require sand for stability- I would re-organize that as needed.
I had a problem with them in my current tank I couldn't kick until I hooked a UV directly to the display.
Since you don't have wrasses that need the sand, I would leave it out.
Rocks shouldn't require sand for stability- I would re-organize that as needed.
Like any other algae they will always be there (at least for now, until we find a permanent fix). When conditions are perfect, they often come back.
O'l Salty
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UV killed my dinos within days. 1 watt for 2 gallons of water. I haven't seen a return of the dinos in 11 months. In this hobby you have to get use to many challenges. Your tank is virtually brand new and I wouldn't go adding a bunch of coral and fish yet as you will face many more challenges. Try to make each challenge a learning experience. You will get through this. I would not reboot your system because of dinos. There is no guarantee dinos will not come back and it's better to find a solution to a problem. Every change you make to your system, dosing etc..will affect every organism in your tank and can have undesired effects. Go slow and be patient. Strive for stability rather than trying to fix a problem immediately. Good luck with whatever you do.
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Like anyone else, I reveled in my accomplishment when it looked great, but when the hammer came down it brought me with it, just bought 80 pounds of sand and will do a full replacement of sand and a 100 percent water change. Eventually I will add a UV sterilizer, will cost 360 dollars for my tank, so that will take a little while to get.
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I do thank everyone for trying to keep my spirits up and for the info.
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I will pick up a 20 gal brute bin tomorrow and transfer any frags that can be saved over to it tomorrow, all it will need is a wavemaker to move the water around, frags don't really put a load on anything so a week in it should be fine without any filtration, I will stick a light over it though, if need be I can do a water change, I will set up another QT tank and put the fish in it for a few days to allow the Biospera and live sand bacteria to build enough, may add some ammonia concentrate to make sure it can deal with it before the fish go back, just depends on how quick the sand gets here with the holidays.
I do have a few big pieces of carib sea life rock that has been in my sump since the beginning, so if I need to put some bacteria in the bin and QT I can use it.
I do have a few big pieces of carib sea life rock that has been in my sump since the beginning, so if I need to put some bacteria in the bin and QT I can use it.
NS Mike D
In the arena.
fwiw, today was another all day every hour rock brushing, running the extra HOB filter, and repeated storming of the sand bed Sunday. I re-started an H2O2 dosing program too.
Sucks, but the corals are looking good and the mandarin and watchman goby are happy so I will continue to heavily feed (including feeding the corals) and accept that until the corals crowd and cover the rock this routine is the price to pay. If not for those two fish, I'd remove that sand bed in a heartbeat.
hang in there
Sucks, but the corals are looking good and the mandarin and watchman goby are happy so I will continue to heavily feed (including feeding the corals) and accept that until the corals crowd and cover the rock this routine is the price to pay. If not for those two fish, I'd remove that sand bed in a heartbeat.
hang in there
