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OK I was chatting with one of my friends tonight and quarantine came up was curious if interceptor would kill the ich parasite? Thoughts and ideas?
 
Interceptor targets Arthropods, animals with an exoskeleton, I doubt it would be an effective treatment for parasites. Interesting thought though and I could be wrong.
 
Are we talking interceptor the flea killer for dogs and cats?
 
Interesting theory. To my knowledge, Milbemycin oxime (Interceptor) has never been tested on external protozoa like ich. It more likely might be able to kill flukes/worms (like Prazipro does), since Interceptor is already known to successfully target nematodes. It's also reportedly been used by some to control parasitic copepods.
 
I dunno is it used for that on dogs and cats ha I just have used it for red bug dips ha was curious after chatting with my buddy if anyone know if it'd kill the parasites ha
 
Interesting theory. To my knowledge, Milbemycin oxime (Interceptor) has never been tested on external protozoa like ich. It more likely might be able to kill flukes/worms (like Prazipro does), since Interceptor is already known to successfully target nematodes. It's also reportedly been used by some to control parasitic copepods.
Well I'm half tempted to buy some ich ridden Petco fish and give it a whirl
Any idea if it would kill Linkia starfish as my buddy is about to add interceptor to his tank to fight his red bugs and wasn't sure if he should bring it to my house. I'm terrible I shouldn't derail my own thread ha
 
I dunno is it used for that on dogs and cats ha I just have used it for red bug dips ha was curious after chatting with my buddy if anyone know if it'd kill the parasites ha

lol. Well I just turned up the heat in my house when my dog got ich and it went away quick, so maybe not :D

In all seriousness though, I would be too scared to try it in my tank or even in a QT. At least not without seeing a dozen successful and well documented experiments. Ya know? But I'm a huge scaredy cat.
 
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Well I'm half tempted to buy some ich ridden Petco fish and give it a whirl
Any idea if it would kill Linkia starfish as my buddy is about to add interceptor to his tank to fight his red bugs and wasn't sure if he should bring it to my house. I'm terrible I shouldn't derail my own thread ha

You are more likely to encounter velvet at Petco - based upon my past experiences with many of their stores. I don't know what it is about Petco that makes them such a velvet magnet... now I'm starting to derail. :p
 
Fenbendazole is much more readily available when comparing the two.
I only did one study.. in 2011 when I got a coral beauty covered in ich.
Now this was only one subject as I didnt move on. I dont like testing with fish.

What I did find was this big guy was clear of it in 3 days using fenbendazole.
Test ended and brought him back to the reef store.
 
Fenbendazole is much more readily available when comparing the two.
I only did one study.. in 2011 when I got a coral beauty covered in ich.
Now this was only one subject as I didnt move on. I dont like testing with fish.

What I did find was this big guy was clear of it in 3 days using fenbendazole.
Test ended and brought him back to the reef store.
Clear of it, or ich it was infected with dropped off. And there were no free swimming to reinfect in your system?
Kind of the premise of TTM. Needed to stay in that tank longer to see if there was reinfection.
 
Fenbendazole is much more readily available when comparing the two.
I only did one study.. in 2011 when I got a coral beauty covered in ich.
Now this was only one subject as I didnt move on. I dont like testing with fish.

What I did find was this big guy was clear of it in 3 days using fenbendazole.
Test ended and brought him back to the reef store.
But the question is can that be added to a reef tank like interceptor is how the subject came up about interceptor
 
Yuppers! Can be added to systems.
This is also how digitate hydroids are taken care of :-)
I was just mentioning something you can get pure without a vet
 
Yuppers! Can be added to systems.
This is also how digitate hydroids are taken care of :-)
I was just mentioning something you can get pure without a vet
Interesting I just did a quick look up on it and it looks as though it's geared more to parasitic infections in animals do you know a recommended dosage per gallon of water
Does it have the safe death effects on inverts like shrimp,copepods, snails, hermits etc
Is there a better brand than another?
 
Interesting I just did a quick look up on it and it looks as though it's geared more to parasitic infections in animals do you know a recommended dosage per gallon of water
Does it have the safe death effects on inverts like shrimp,copepods, snails, hermits etc
Is there a better brand than another?
I only did ich testing once to remember. Information below is from general testing with other issues. Ich testing is not in the plans as of right now.


This is the cool thing about fenbendazole its less invasive. copepods, hermits are unharmed. Some snails are sensitive to it (turbos for instance, fatal) all fish are unharmed.
It is for parasitic use. Can even be bought from amazon in pure form.
This is for informational purposes only :-)
 
Interesting theory. To my knowledge, Milbemycin oxime (Interceptor) has never been tested on external protozoa like ich. It more likely might be able to kill flukes/worms (like Prazipro does), since Interceptor is already known to successfully target nematodes. It's also reportedly been used by some to control parasitic copepods.

Interceptor (edit for clarity- Interceptor is Milbemycin Oxime) is a heartworm prevention, doesn't do anything for fleas....

I would be suspicious about it working like prazipro, praziquantel targets tapeworms in dogs/cats, and interceptor is not labeled for tapeworm infections, I think interceptor spectrum actually has praziquantel in it.

Interceptor does kill hookworms, roundworms, whip worms (as does Fenbendazole, which also doesn't kill the same tapeworm that praziquantel does) but Praziquantel does not kill those worms.. Granted this is how it works in cat/dog parasites.. I guess my point is not all dewormers are equal..

Maybe experimentation would show it works on some, but since it is much more difficult to get than praziquantel I don't see the benefit.

Milbemycin is used to treat some external parasites though, like ear mites (Milbemite). Some vets use it off label for democratic mange mites. But these are all mites it's treating, not worms. And it is not effective against adult heartworm, only against the initial stage of infection. When the immature heartworm is in the skin, once it moves past the skin it can develop into an adult. That's why it has to be given monthly, the skin stage lasts 30—45 days.

Also interesting, is the bayer dip every one uses as a coral pest removal, the active ingredient is imidacloprid. Imidacloprid is the active ingredient in the topical flea product "Advantage" (although it appears the original Advantage is not around, and the Advantage II has another ingredient that I suspect is a pyrethrin based pesticide, have to research more)

The topical flea product Frontline WILL kill your shrimp. This is also waterproof so don't apply Frontline (or any of the generic Frontline widely available) to your pets then put your hands in the tank!
 
Interceptor (edit for clarity- Interceptor is Milbemycin Oxime) is a heartworm prevention, doesn't do anything for fleas....

I would be suspicious about it working like prazipro, praziquantel targets tapeworms in dogs/cats, and interceptor is not labeled for tapeworm infections, I think interceptor spectrum actually has praziquantel in it.

Interceptor does kill hookworms, roundworms, whip worms (as does Fenbendazole, which also doesn't kill the same tapeworm that praziquantel does) but Praziquantel does not kill those worms.. Granted this is how it works in cat/dog parasites.. I guess my point is not all dewormers are equal..

Maybe experimentation would show it works on some, but since it is much more difficult to get than praziquantel I don't see the benefit.

Milbemycin is used to treat some external parasites though, like ear mites (Milbemite). Some vets use it off label for democratic mange mites. But these are all mites it's treating, not worms. And it is not effective against adult heartworm, only against the initial stage of infection. When the immature heartworm is in the skin, once it moves past the skin it can develop into an adult. That's why it has to be given monthly, the skin stage lasts 30—45 days.

Also interesting, is the bayer dip every one uses as a coral pest removal, the active ingredient is imidacloprid. Imidacloprid is the active ingredient in the topical flea product "Advantage" (although it appears the original Advantage is not around, and the Advantage II has another ingredient that I suspect is a pyrethrin based pesticide, have to research more)

The topical flea product Frontline WILL kill your shrimp. This is also waterproof so don't apply Frontline (or any of the generic Frontline widely available) to your pets then put your hands in the tank!
Ok so what are you saying here ha
 
lol. Well I just turned up the heat in my house when my dog got ich and it went away quick, so maybe not :D

In all seriousness though, I would be too scared to try it in my tank or even in a QT. At least not without seeing a dozen successful and well documented experiments. Ya know? But I'm a huge scaredy cat.
I thought interceptor was actually a dewormer for dogs but I could be wrong. It's also long been known and readily accepted as red bug treatment for reef tanks and quite reef safe aside from shrimp crabs and pods.
 

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