instant ocean bio spira
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BryanS4
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You really have to be on top for looking for the param spikes, they happen really fast. Some folks I've talked with waited a day before testing and never saw the spikes so they didn't think it worked. Problem is it already happened.
BryanS4
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I personally don't use one, but I'd say after a few days you would be OK to use. Maybe others have better info on that.
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If it indeed works I don't see the point in waiting a few days. I just used it on my hospital tank....I guess we'll see
nice review of bottle bac in general
posters knew they were legit via ammonia and nitrate testing before the results were as formal
of the various snake oils that came and went, keeping bac alive in aqueous soln turns out to be easy right up until the expiration date, which is generous.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2014/8/review
posters knew they were legit via ammonia and nitrate testing before the results were as formal
of the various snake oils that came and went, keeping bac alive in aqueous soln turns out to be easy right up until the expiration date, which is generous.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2014/8/review
Reef kid
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I used it on my 37 gal, had fish in writhing a day or two and he lived, it was three stripe. Damsel who eventually banished to the sump... But I put other fish in within a week or two and they all were fine
one thing is for certain, use of the bottle bac does not guarantee a first day fish isn't seeing unoxidized ammonia. For sure the bac in solution can command some, and dilution helps, but its only an accurate speed cycle if you test for ammonia digestion before adding fish. adding fish without known ammonia digesting is a risk always. wouldn't be surprised at all if a dose of live bac into a tank can digest all the waste from a few fish day 1, it sure might be able to. just remarking on testing the digestion amounts and time is the only way to do it correctly. once you can do 3-4 pm to zero in two hours, put some fish if speed cycling was the goal.
I for one like the biology of speed cycling. we want things faster digitally, why not biologically as well. we all realize that years aged live rock is ideal, the food web, etc. but is it required to have a tank loaded with coral and fish? not at all, so speed cycling moves up from formerly being an irresponsible way of reefing to an equally valid way to waiting 2 yrs before stocking anything, all we have to do is prove no animals are being burned and make up for the food web with the fine retail array frozen/refrig available. in 4 yrs we all look alike heh be it a fishbowl of coral or a 280 with every known bell and whistle.
ive speed cycled every reef I ever put online, frags were either in along with the original setup, came home with the live rock, or were put in two days after. My tanks have been taken apart before down to the sand in threads, same thing. When its all reassembled before death time, you've just speed cycled a live rock tank and I could do it with a fish easily but I don't use fish, only corals and inverts. speed cycling the dry materials is where tedious testing is required. I can skip cycle and not test my live rock specifically due to the way my LFS cures it for me since 1999, we're rather on par about things lol/. rock bought from my lfs doesn't need to cycle but id never put a giant bioload on day one just to push. waiting for a tank to age is just as handy for param control as it is filter maturation, but we can hedge on much of that if needed (emergency tank moves upgrades etc) or wanted simply due to todays time demands.
ive speed cycled every reef I ever put online, frags were either in along with the original setup, came home with the live rock, or were put in two days after. My tanks have been taken apart before down to the sand in threads, same thing. When its all reassembled before death time, you've just speed cycled a live rock tank and I could do it with a fish easily but I don't use fish, only corals and inverts. speed cycling the dry materials is where tedious testing is required. I can skip cycle and not test my live rock specifically due to the way my LFS cures it for me since 1999, we're rather on par about things lol/. rock bought from my lfs doesn't need to cycle but id never put a giant bioload on day one just to push. waiting for a tank to age is just as handy for param control as it is filter maturation, but we can hedge on much of that if needed (emergency tank moves upgrades etc) or wanted simply due to todays time demands.
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Brian Kim
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Over 10 tanks started using bio spira. About 7 in the last 3 months all using bio spira.
I have added fish right away on most but I'd also used live sand, live rock, seeded filter media and such.
Make sure you turn off your skimmer and UV for at least 10 days
I have added fish right away on most but I'd also used live sand, live rock, seeded filter media and such.
Make sure you turn off your skimmer and UV for at least 10 days
