Is this velvet?

[Big G]

Most of the fish on your list do better in chelated copper vs ionic copper (Cupramine).
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fish-and-treatment-guidelines-with-chart.283450/#post-3449648

 

[4FordFamily]

I have Ebay CP or Cupramine

CP is Chloroquine Phosphate, by the way. Cupramine is ionic copper. You may know that but this post had me wanting to ensure you knew that

Most of us avoid eBay CP due to its assumed unknown purity.

 

[KMench]

Yes, I bought Ebay CP and he said it came from Fishman pharma, I'm not sure if I want to test it or not. Should I wait until morning and get copper power, or start the cupramine now?

I would even be willing to dose a bit of cupramine tonight, then run some carbon or something tomorrow to pull it and then use copper power if it would help at all.

 

[KMench]

I think we may have caught it in time. Fish are in therapeutic level of copper now and I no longer see spots which (I think) is at least a good sign that we are moving in the right direction. Is copper for 30 days required for velvet?

 

[HotRocks]

I think we may have caught it in time. Fish are in therapeutic level of copper now and I no longer see spots which (I think) is at least a good sign that we are moving in the right direction. Is copper for 30 days required for velvet?

That's good news!

Yes 30 days of therapeutic copper using the same tank or 14 days therapuetic copper if you have a second sterile QT they can be transfered to.

 

[KMench]

@HotRocks If I have a second tank, but not two sets of filtration equipment would it be ok to move them to a second tank after 14 days and then sterilize all my equipment in a bleach solution and reuse it? Or is that not a safe bet?

 

[HotRocks]

It's not a chance I'd be willing to take. In theory if everything is sanitized properly it could work.

 

[KMench]

@HotRocks Ok, so as long as everyone does well in copper, they'll stay in copper for 30 days. It's 6 weeks fallow for the DT too right? Just making sure I have all my ducks in a row.

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks Ok, so as long as everyone does well in copper, they'll stay in copper for 30 days. It's 6 weeks fallow for the DT too right? Just making sure I have all my ducks in a row.

6 weeks fallow to eliminate velvet.
76 days for ich. If fish are doing well in QT I would just go the 76 days to be safe.

 

[KMench]

Ok, I've got them all stuffed in one 20L QT currently since that's the biggest I've got. I'm going to split them and put some in another 20L which should make them more comfortable and we will see how it goes! Thanks for your help. I'll keep you updated

 

[dwest]

Ok, I've got them all stuffed in one 20L QT currently since that's the biggest I've got. I'm going to split them and put some in another 20L which should make them more comfortable and we will see how it goes! Thanks for your help. I'll keep you updated

Good luck! What did you do with your mandarin?

 

[KMench]

@dwest I put him in a separate 10g tank and will treat him with my questionable CP

 

[KMench]

Well, everyone is still alive and kicking. I had pulled the tangs first and the butterfly since they were the most symptomatic and they have been in therapeutic copper for several days now. The wrasses and smaller fish waited until the next day since I had to practically break down the whole tank to find them. They’re in QT as well and since they haven’t displayed any s/s of velvet I’ve been raising the copper more slowly with them. Hoping to have them at full therapeutic today, but not necessarily rushing since I have a six week fallow period anyway at a minimum.

 

[Gmj4409]

Please let us know how the mandarin does. Thanks

 

[KMench]

Has anyone tried dosing peroxide for velvet? Found an interesting article about it.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-07/sp/feature/index.php

 

[HotRocks]

I'm aware of the possibility. Problem is there hasn't been enough research done to be sure that it's safe. That's just my opinion.

 

[brwaldbaum]

Has anyone tried dosing peroxide for velvet? Found an interesting article about it.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-07/sp/feature/index.php

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/my-struggle-with-velvet-and-peroxide-as-a-promising-tool.459126/

 

[brwaldbaum]

I believe the YouTuber is @Russ265.

 

[KMench]

@brwaldbaum thars very interesting. If I would’ve thought about it I would’ve given it a try. I was dosing pretty heavily with h2o2 in my tank recently because of dinos, and didn’t have any ill effects on my fish.

 

[KMench]

Everyone is still doing well. I have three tanks set up. The butterfly, purple tang, and both clowns are in the tank on the windowsill and seem to all be perfectly happy and loving life. The mandarin is in a 10g quarantine with CP and I haven’t quite figured out what to feed him yet since he used to just eat pods in the DT. I have a culture and tried dosing some to his tank even though he’s in CP, in addition I’ve tried offering some white worms. The wrasses, hippo, and smaller fish are in another QT on the floor of the basement and seem to hide a lot more than the other fish in the windowsill. They are all alive and kicking and I just got the wrasse/hippo/small fish QT back up to therapeutic levels today.