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Dissolved in RO/DI to saturation?
Low pH solution not yet discussed!
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I don’t know what concentration he uses, but it isn’t saturation and you can make it to most any concentration you want. Most folks dose something like 1-2 ppm nitrate per day.
Diesel
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Correct.
I used a 20oz Ozarka bottle and added 2 table spoons of the loudwolf to it and mixed it.
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Thank you both!
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Hi Diesel. Can you post a link to your discussion on how you set up your NMB system please.
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Oh man that been a while ago and time ain’t on my hand right now.
Hoping my buddy @Cruz_Arias can chime in.
Andre @PSXerholic can profuse you some kinks as well.
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Diesel
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Dang, that thread is still around?
I believe it was closed due to a bunch non-believers cause there wasn’t a scientific backup.
But 95% of this hobby is done and proven by none scientist.
Yet it’s great that scientist now are more connected with the hobby as it got so much more interesting.
I believe it was closed due to a bunch non-believers cause there wasn’t a scientific backup.
But 95% of this hobby is done and proven by none scientist.
Yet it’s great that scientist now are more connected with the hobby as it got so much more interesting.
Ok my setup is a red sea reefer 350 where about would I tap into my overflow to put my holes, I'm in the same boat i run a C02 scrubber as well and have a holes hooked up to my skimmer and my pH will not go above 79
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I'm just getting into the hobby, so excuse my ignorance. The solution to the problem is to aerate the tank with air from outside, right? Does this work since CO2 levels outside are lower than those inside? Did you use your solution since it's quick, cheap, and easy, or does it really do a better job than adding base to the tank?
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Yep avg inside measured air has about 1000ppm of Co2, during the winter even higher when you run a heater.
Outside air can be as low as around 400ppm.
I measured once a elevated Co2 in my room where I have the tank when I through a big party when I turned 50, it came close to 1600ppm
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thanks
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First things first, I would run your intake air to your skimmer venturi drawing from the outside of your home then see if you need better results.
I am unfamiliar with the Red Sea Reefer overflow set up. Perhaps someone with more experience can chime in and provide a better solution. But, based on what I see, and I can't see or understand exactly how their silencer works on the main overflow drain, I would cap the silencer and put a hole in the installed cap and then run a tube to the exterior. Again, I can't say for certain how that silencer works. If you could add some photos or find a detailed diagram of the drain setup and provide a description based on your observations/understanding, I might be able to steer you towards a proper solution for your particular set-up. I would say that if you cap it without a hole in the top first and your overflow starts to gurgle than the hole and tube run to the exterior will work.
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Help you put here quick with the No3 with an abstract from my built thread:
Here is the Reef Moonshiner's TM recipe for a Sodium Nitrate stock solution out of the woods ;-)
Mix 50gram of Sodium Nitrate into 1Liter or 1Kg RODI water which you will have available as a carrier liquid.
To increase 1ppm No3, with this Solution, you need to dose 2.75ml per 100Liter tank volume.
If you want to do only 0.25ppm simply divide the total by 4...... simple math.
Here is the Reef Moonshiner's TM recipe for Potassium Nitrate ;-)
Mix 50gram of Potassium Nitrate into 1Liter or 1Kg RODI water which you will have available as a carrier liquid.
To increase 1ppm No3, with this Solution, you need to dose 3.26ml per 100Liter tank volume.
If you want to do only 0.25ppm simply divide the total by 4...... simple math.
So you see it is weaker than Sodium Nitrate solution and need some more!
The amount of Potassium increase is extremely low for our tanks and only increases 0.63ppm which is nothing compared to a standard value of around 400-410ppm. Just in case you guys are interested on the potassium increase ;-)
If you use RODI water for Nitrate solutions, they won't last longer than 3-6 months or so, due to the fact of bacteria growth.
RODI is not good for professional supplements, just saying.
Happy Reefing.
-Andre
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There are many ways to raise pH.
For most people, a skimmer inlet is better than an overflow for outside air addition because the air flow is higher and the mixing is better. But if you do not have a skimmer or just a very small one, the overflow might be a good option. FWIW, my overflows sucked very little air and wouldn't be especially useful.
When you say base addition, you mean hydroxide dosed to the tank? That's a great way to remove some CO2, but remember that it adds alkalinity.
If you mean soda lime on a skimmer inlet, that's more effective than outside air in many cases, but costs to buy and replace the media.
P-Dub im sorry to put i do have my air holes from my skimmer ran outside of my house and my pH is still not going anywhere near where it should be and it a half inch holes so its taken is a lot here is a pic of red sea overflow box
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P-Dub im sorry to put i do have my air holes from my skimmer ran outside of my house and my pH is still not going anywhere near where it should be and it a half inch holes so its taken is a lot here is a pic of red sea overflow box
What is your Ph?
Say in the morning low level and late afternoon peak level?
How do you monitor?
