sorry we couldnt do it today and by no means am i backing out i would like to try for monday maybe tues and if susan doesnt speak up soon then im going to have to get both of them and i still would like to know about the root size i have a decent size to work with but i dont know the sizes of the roots lol but i would like to have a 6 to 7 inch mud bed in a 35 gal fuge i made and the mangroves it would be running on its own overflow and return pump and im trying to find a fixture i feel comfrontable with to grow them out because i have at least 6 foot i could grow it to with an 8 foot ceiling govin room for lights lol and i realy might go with regular florecent light combo probly 4 daylight and 2 actinic just because i have the ballest for at least 4 bulbs laying in my stand and i thing we have 3 more at my step dads work what do you think just do 4 daylight bulbs hang them 14 inch abouve the plant i plan on doing research on the plant its self so if you know the main type of mangrove it is please inform me and i could probly make it out there befor 9 either mon or tues and get both if like i saide susan doesnt want the smal one but i have a plan on my system and i realy want my skimmer to be the only mechanical filter axcept for 2 or 3 sponges lol but if you could deliever ill give you 30 for the small one and the frag for the big one and we can sit and hang out and discuss how i should do my raising of the stand at the latest ill be home around 5 the next 2 days and im off the next 2 days so lets make this happin lol

h i saw his, but hes always throwing people under the bus, you caught me offguard.


