My eel is sick and i need help please

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So i posted in the predator fish forum but i dont know if thats the right place to post it. My eel is sick a while ago the very tip of his tail turned white but he was fine now he is getting pale/cloudy looking around the tail area and he is very agressive and agitated breathing very hard, i dont know whats wrong i need help please i really dont want him to die he is pretty much the reason oi am still in the hobby. i will post pictures soon. he ate a few days ago i think my pump might have heavy metals in it but i dont know. Any help is very welcome . he seem to be declining fast please anyone that can help i will take it. could this be from stress?
 
I remember responding to you on your earlier thread, it's a goldentail correct? At that time I think I mentioned watching for a bacterial infection, so if the flesh isn't raw that is likely not what it was. 1st off you must determine your water quality, if you think there is a contamination you have to test for it; a simple quick check you can use a Poly-Bio-Marine poly filter, they will turn different colors to indicate metals and such. Have you seen his poop, is it white and stringy, as eels many times will have internal parasites, I believe I mentioned that when you 1st got him; a pale coloration can sometimes be indicative of internal parasites. If you have treated that tank with copper and not properly removed it, that can be bad news. As far as aggression goes, that is an aggressive to very aggressive eel.
 
I remember responding to you on your earlier thread, it's a goldentail correct? At that time I think I mentioned watching for a bacterial infection, so if the flesh isn't raw that is likely not what it was. 1st off you must determine your water quality, if you think there is a contamination you have to test for it; a simple quick check you can use a Poly-Bio-Marine poly filter, they will turn different colors to indicate metals and such. Have you seen his poop, is it white and stringy, as eels many times will have internal parasites, I believe I mentioned that when you 1st got him; a pale coloration can sometimes be indicative of internal parasites. If you have treated that tank with copper and not properly removed it, that can be bad news. As far as aggression goes, that is an aggressive to very aggressive eel.
ok thank you very much i dont have a way to test for metals right now and i havnt seen his poop. im really worried about him. what is the best way to treat for internal parasites?
 
I remember responding to you on your earlier thread, it's a goldentail correct? At that time I think I mentioned watching for a bacterial infection, so if the flesh isn't raw that is likely not what it was. 1st off you must determine your water quality, if you think there is a contamination you have to test for it; a simple quick check you can use a Poly-Bio-Marine poly filter, they will turn different colors to indicate metals and such. Have you seen his poop, is it white and stringy, as eels many times will have internal parasites, I believe I mentioned that when you 1st got him; a pale coloration can sometimes be indicative of internal parasites. If you have treated that tank with copper and not properly removed it, that can be bad news. As far as aggression goes, that is an aggressive to very aggressive eel.
I agree with this. It can also be an injury. Can you post a photo?
 
and i know they are agressive but he seems to be troubled
 
I agree with this. It can also be an injury. Can you post a photo?
yes i will post a photo as soon as i can. what are the odds of him coming back from this? also how long will you guys be online because i will not have access to a camera till a little later
 
i am testing all the water parameters right now
should have the results in a few
 
More details. Tank size and age. Filtration. Amount of live rock. Other inhabitants. Length of time you've owned the eel. Pictures.
 
ok thank you very much i dont have a way to test for metals right now and i havnt seen his poop. im really worried about him. what is the best way to treat for internal parasites?

So has that tank been treated with copper? Being concerned of a contamination I would run a poly filter 1st, it has to be the Poly bio Marine brand not a knock off. This filter also takes medication out of the water so you have to find this out 1st before you treat for internal parasites. Treating fish like eels that don't eat every day it's best to treat with general cure in the water column, this becomes a bit more complicated when already in the display tank.

If it is internal parasites, since he ate the other day, there's a very good chance to recover from that, if that's what it is. But if it's due to some type of contamination, all bets are off, as you can never determine what kind of organ damage may have been done. And today you can not rule out cyanide poisoning.
 
I kept a Gymnothorax Undulatus (undulated Moray) for a few years (25 years FWIW) so I may be of some assistance.

As others have asked, to help determine the problem and it's cause, we need more information. Tank size, how long it's been set up, lighting (eels don't really like too much light, making them less suitable for a reef aquarium), filtration (live rock/bioballs/etc), other tank mates, and current parameters. The ones that count for the Eel are Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, salinity, and temperature. The Eel doesn't care about Ca, Alk, or Mg. Has the tank been treated with copper or any other medication? Smooth skinned fishes like Eels can be especially sensitive to copper. If it has, running a good amount of carbon, preferably in a reactor, will help to remove it and any other toxins in the water.

Pictures will help immensely.

Once we can figure out what is going on we can think about treating it properly. Medicating for the sake of medicating can do more harm than good so until there is a diagnosis I would suggest you not try to treat what might or might not be the problem.

As for actually giving it the medication, as long as it is still eating it is really pretty simple. Add the meds to it's food rather than trying to treat the entire tank. It will take much less of whatever meds needed and will have a much greater chance of success.

Eels are very resilient creatures. I gave mine up for doomed several times over the years and each time it recovered just fine. It's longest hunger strike was nearly 6 months. The first time it escaped, I found it dried up on the floor but still hanging on. I dropped it into the tank, and other than a really bad bacterial infection was none the worse for wear.
 
I kept a Gymnothorax Undulatus (undulated Moray) for a few years (25 years FWIW) so I may be of some assistance.

As others have asked, to help determine the problem and it's cause, we need more information. Tank size, how long it's been set up, lighting (eels don't really like too much light, making them less suitable for a reef aquarium), filtration (live rock/bioballs/etc), other tank mates, and current parameters. The ones that count for the Eel are Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, salinity, and temperature. The Eel doesn't care about Ca, Alk, or Mg. Has the tank been treated with copper or any other medication? Smooth skinned fishes like Eels can be especially sensitive to copper. If it has, running a good amount of carbon, preferably in a reactor, will help to remove it and any other toxins in the water.

Pictures will help immensely.

Once we can figure out what is going on we can think about treating it properly. Medicating for the sake of medicating can do more harm than good so until there is a diagnosis I would suggest you not try to treat what might or might not be the problem.

As for actually giving it the medication, as long as it is still eating it is really pretty simple. Add the meds to it's food rather than trying to treat the entire tank. It will take much less of whatever meds needed and will have a much greater chance of success.

Eels are very resilient creatures. I gave mine up for doomed several times over the years and each time it recovered just fine. It's longest hunger strike was nearly 6 months. The first time it escaped, I found it dried up on the floor but still hanging on. I dropped it into the tank, and other than a really bad bacterial infection was none the worse for wear.
So every thing in the tank is having trouble breathing, all the inverts are effected too the tube worm has bailed out of the tube. They are dying, I dont really know what to do i have a different tank i can throw stuff in but its only 14 gallons, my parents are screaming at me that its my fault and that i cant do anything. i guess this is just the end of the hobby for me. my tank will probably be for sale later if anyone is interested. thanks everyone for taking the time to help with suggestions.
 
I kept a Gymnothorax Undulatus (undulated Moray) for a few years (25 years FWIW) so I may be of some assistance.

As others have asked, to help determine the problem and it's cause, we need more information. Tank size, how long it's been set up, lighting (eels don't really like too much light, making them less suitable for a reef aquarium), filtration (live rock/bioballs/etc), other tank mates, and current parameters. The ones that count for the Eel are Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH, salinity, and temperature. The Eel doesn't care about Ca, Alk, or Mg. Has the tank been treated with copper or any other medication? Smooth skinned fishes like Eels can be especially sensitive to copper. If it has, running a good amount of carbon, preferably in a reactor, will help to remove it and any other toxins in the water.

Pictures will help immensely.

Once we can figure out what is going on we can think about treating it properly. Medicating for the sake of medicating can do more harm than good so until there is a diagnosis I would suggest you not try to treat what might or might not be the problem.

As for actually giving it the medication, as long as it is still eating it is really pretty simple. Add the meds to it's food rather than trying to treat the entire tank. It will take much less of whatever meds needed and will have a much greater chance of success.

Eels are very resilient creatures. I gave mine up for doomed several times over the years and each time it recovered just fine. It's longest hunger strike was nearly 6 months. The first time it escaped, I found it dried up on the floor but still hanging on. I dropped it into the tank, and other than a really bad bacterial infection was none the worse for wear.
I am almost positive it is some form of water piosoning at this piont
 
I FIRGURED IT OUT
 
it is a heater the tank is really hot
 
how shpould i cool it down
 
the heater what sizzling and steaming when i took it out it broke my thermomoter so i thought it was cooler but the thermometer was wrong
 

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