Need help with NaNO3 dosing (increasing nitrates)

I don't have an access to a microscope, but Im assuming they are toxic because snails are not doing too well
 
Can't help much with the NaNO3 dosing, but as far as the toxins go...

Can you start large, regular water changes?

Carbon/GFO? (I realize this may go against your nutrient desires, but recovery may be a higher priority at the moment) Either change them out or start something up?

Skim aggressively to remove toxins, run it wet and clean it out at least once a day.

Good luck.
 
Can't help much with the NaNO3 dosing, but as far as the toxins go...

Can you start large, regular water changes?

Carbon/GFO? (I realize this may go against your nutrient desires, but recovery may be a higher priority at the moment) Either change them out or start something up?

Skim aggressively to remove toxins, run it wet and clean it out at least once a day.

Good luck.

Tried all of the above, skimmed wet, large water changes, carbon changed every 3 days. It kept them in check but dinos persisted. None of the above helped with tissue necrosis. Coral death is inevitable at this point.
 
I've not heard that adding nitrate will help an existing Dino problem and I'd guess it would be more likely to make it worse, but have not seen anyone try that I can recall. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Have you tried hydrogen peroxide?

nitrate dosing does make it worse. i stopped dosing nitrate and when it finally hit 0 there was a noticeable "stunt" in growth.

unfortunately... the corals can only tolerate this deficit for so long and dinos can outlast a coral.

there is no 100% solution for this problem.

however here are some tips.

siphon subtrate out entirely and rinse with chlorinated tap water.

less is better than more. i have a similar size tank (265 with 80 fuge) and i dosed 2-3 ml an hour of peroxide on my doser. it kept zoas and such from closing.

water changes should have the 10/1 ratio in the clean salt water. water changes by themselves do not fuel dinos. it only appears that way if your pump is off for 30+ minutes.

blue lights as much as you can. this retards growth significantly. if you can lay off the whites.

dont clean algae or cyano. cyano can outcompete dino if you let it. green algae is desireable if you can get it to grow on a turf scrubber. thicker the better.

uv filter. this "helps" but wont cure it like peroxide does.

ozone... not for the feint of heart. but has destroyed dinos before in other tanks.

reversed light schedule. this is an immediate bandaid but it does work for a week or 2 before their circadium rhythm comes back. then you will have to reverse it again.

good luck
 
Thanks Russ265, following your advice. Threw some corals out today. Started cooking some rock since a teardown seems likely near future. Changed the lights to blues only. Turned the skimmer back on. don't have a UV filter. never used ozone. Thinking of getting more info on antibiotic use. Dino is a bacteria, something has to kill it. Will set up a quarantine tank and start moving corals and clams over, so I can limit light over display. Any little injury to coral and dinos attach in 5 seconds and thats the beginning of the end. Insane!
 
Thanks Russ265, following your advice. Threw some corals out today. Started cooking some rock since a teardown seems likely near future. Changed the lights to blues only. Turned the skimmer back on. don't have a UV filter. never used ozone. Thinking of getting more info on antibiotic use. Dino is a bacteria, something has to kill it. Will set up a quarantine tank and start moving corals and clams over, so I can limit light over display. Any little injury to coral and dinos attach in 5 seconds and thats the beginning of the end. Insane!

doing good but dinos arent bacterial. things are more algal in nature.

suck that subtrate up. trust me on this... itll burn out noticeably quicker if you do this. i got this tip from bare bottom guys.


here is my take on my observations with dino...


vacuumed substrate, limited lighting, small doses of peroxide.

took 3 months but it got the job done
 
I just don't understand how I got them in the first place. My corals were always pale due to lack of nitrate and phosphate. No algae in the tank.
 
I just don't understand how I got them in the first place. My corals were always pale due to lack of nitrate and phosphate. No algae in the tank.

same as mine. super clean tank. only us superclean guys get them

this aint for the gha guys
 
my tank is barebottom. no substrate what so ever, just rocks on glass
 
ever since i started dosing nitrate, i started seeing a thin green algae layer forming on back glass. it peels off easily. hopefully it can outcompete with dinos
 
ever since i started dosing nitrate, i started seeing a thin green algae layer forming on back glass. it peels off easily. hopefully it can outcompete with dinos
if you can get it a thick matte, itll do those dinos in. im envious. i even dosed iron and still failed.

but i saw a ton of guys pull it off
 
only works if u can grow the d* algae broskie. its hard for us to give them a foothold!
how long did you dose peroxide for and did you do a "lights out" along with it? Thanks
 
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how long did you dose peroxide for and did you do a "lights out" along with it? Thanks

lol where do i find my dino adventure? lol

i wrapped my 7ft long 265 in a flatscreen tv box and they still came back. i dosed 300 ml a day DURING blackout.

1 week later... dinos.

i said screw it! and i just put peroxide on the doser. that kept my livestock alive and dinos down.

it was NOT a pretty tank during those 3 months
 
lol where do i find my dino adventure? lol

i wrapped my 7ft long 265 in a flatscreen tv box and they still came back. i dosed 300 ml a day DURING blackout.

1 week later... dinos.

i said screw it! and i just put peroxide on the doser. that kept my livestock alive and dinos down.

it was NOT a pretty tank during those 3 months

I posted a pic of the algae on back wall. So, did you dose peroxide for 3 months with a doser?
 
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This is dinoflagellates
An organism that has photosynthetic properties and eat whole prey.
This is at 2500 power. All you need to do to get them is introduce 1 cell into your tank. They are water born. They multiply by division
Come in most likely from frags, fish or the water shipped in.
 

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