New Bacteria Product . . . hmmmm

vetteguy53081 · Mar 17, 2023

Video - Reefstock 2023 - Hydrospace - SaltwaterAquarium.com

www.saltwateraquarium.com

Spare time · Mar 17, 2023

I am hoping for more products like this that focus more on the coral microbiome since. Microbiomes play huge roles in species. Thanks for sharing

vetteguy53081 · Mar 17, 2023

Spare time said:
I am hoping for more products like this that focus more on the coral microbiome since. Microbiomes play huge roles in species. Thanks for sharing

Me too and Im willing to give it a shot

Dan_P · Mar 17, 2023

Oh boy, another product for @taricha to look into. The probiotic game gets more and more interesting, though claims are still outpacing data that they actually do anything.

I am wondering. The way the market is going, I should start selling my aquarium water as a probiotic.

dedragon · Mar 17, 2023

not really a new product, algaebarn has been selling this for a few years now. It does work well especially in newer aquariums started with dry rock

taricha · Mar 17, 2023

Dan_P said:
Oh boy, another product for @taricha to look into.

This is the PNS bacteria that @Kenneth Wingerter has talked about a few times on here. It's very interesting. No idea if it does anything measurable that could distinguish it from other bacterial additives.
@Dan_P you know me.

This stuff has a unique spectrum (an unusual Chlorophyll that I've never seen any sign of in my system) so there's an experiment in my head where I could look at the stuff in the bottle and then dose a system with it for a set time and see if that particular chlorophyll is detectable in any of the niches in my system some time later. I have cyano that grows on the totally anoxic - but lit from below - bottom of my glass, so there are niches that seem suited for this bacteria.

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 17, 2023

The text below the video mentions feeding your corals. That's certainly a potential benefit of bacteria in a bottle, just as it may be for organic carbon dosing.

As seems to now be my stock opinion for such products, anyone considering bacteria should ask themselves what problem is it trying to solve, and if they currently have that problem. Increasing diversity does not count, IMO, as a problem needing solving.

Perhaps it is just insurance against future pests like dinos or cyano, or perhaps folks already have those at problematic levels.

vtecintegra · Mar 17, 2023

Anaerobic bacteria that photosynthesizes? How does it do that if it lives deep in anaerobic areas?

Lavey29 · Mar 17, 2023

vetteguy53081 said:
Video - Reefstock 2023 - Hydrospace - SaltwaterAquarium.com

www.saltwateraquarium.com

I've been using this for almost a year now with positive results

Tcook · Mar 17, 2023

Lavey29 said:
I've been using this for almost a year now with positive results

What are your positive results? Nutrient control? Fewer cyano outbreaks? Coral growth? Cleaner sand?

Biddence · Mar 17, 2023

Lavey29 said:
I've been using this for almost a year now with positive results

Can you go into detail of your positive results?

biom · Mar 17, 2023

Finally a product with clearly pointed scientific name of the bacteria in it. I dont think it will make miracles in your tank but will feed your corals and possibly will consume some of the organics before eventually die. Personally I don't want to have another purple slime to dominate in my tank

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VanDalsenReef · Mar 17, 2023

vetteguy53081 said:
Me too and Im willing to give it a shot

I use their products dropped my nitrates and p04 to respectable levels and feeds corals. 2 for 1

Kellie in CA · Mar 17, 2023

I just tried to buy some and was told I had to pay special refrigerated shipping charges even though it says it doesn't need refrigeration. Shrug.

VanDalsenReef · Mar 17, 2023

They actually have scientific articles on their products. Not these stupid and sketchy "proprietary blends" like dr.tim or brightwrll or really any other company. I have no problem calling them out. Probably will get banned cause that's mean to the mods but oh well.

Lavey29 · Mar 17, 2023

Tcook said:
What are your positive results? Nutrient control? Fewer cyano outbreaks? Coral growth? Cleaner sand?

Exactly, a good list from my point of view. The main thing that I've always liked with it is the handling of organic waste. My sock used to be black after 3 or 4 days. It stays completely white for several weeks now. I've had great coral growth the past year but I can't say it is directly connected to PNS. I have no cyano and virtually no algae at all except minor traces of diatoms on my sand due to silica. I dose 50ml once a week. I like the product for ease of use and no fridge needed. My nitrates stay consistent at 10 to 12. I wish it worked better on phosphate too.

Lavey29 · Mar 17, 2023

Biddence said:
Can you go into detail of your positive results?

See prior post

Dennis Cartier · Mar 17, 2023

The principal, Kenneth, is nice and very helpful in responding to questions and providing accurate info. As others have noted, so nice to have a vendor share detailed info on the organisms they sell without obfuscation.

vetteguy53081 · Mar 17, 2023

VanDalsenReef said:
They actually have scientific articles on their products. Not these stupid and sketchy "proprietary blends" like dr.tim or brightwrll or really any other company. I have no problem calling them out. Probably will get banned cause that's mean to the mods but oh well.

You are entitled to your findings and expression - Just keep it respectful and Dont see an issue with comments