New fish bacterial infection?
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melypr1985
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@Naiad that's a pretty terrible pic. Got any clearer?
I think I see a red sore behind the eye, is that correct?
I think I see a red sore behind the eye, is that correct?
melypr1985
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I assume he's in QT now? Keep it clean and feed vitamins.
Furan-2, Kanaplex and Metroplex is the most well-rounded spectrum of antibiotics and covers both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial infections.
follow the directions on the bottles as far as dosing, just do them all at the same time for 2 consecutive weeks i believe. Humblefish can correct me if I'm wrong of course.
Furan-2, Kanaplex and Metroplex is the most well-rounded spectrum of antibiotics and covers both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial infections.
follow the directions on the bottles as far as dosing, just do them all at the same time for 2 consecutive weeks i believe. Humblefish can correct me if I'm wrong of course.
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I would treat them all the same. They very well may have been all in the same holding system. I'm always in the "better safe than sorry" camp.
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Sounds good. Just didn't know if isolation may help prevent the spread should this be something really nasty. I will be running to the fish store tonight to pickup more salt and meds
Good advice.
Could be uronema marinum which I thought metro was also considered a treatment for, but it's not mentioned here... http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/10/aafeature1
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Ok unrelated but in my other qt I have lymph. I was reading that while there is no cure because it is viral that it is a good idea to treat with antibiotics until the fishes immune system gets it under control. This will prevent secondary bacterial infection in the entry point of the virus. Would this combo be good to use there?
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I haven't read anything to indicate that antibiotics would help much with lymph. You can feed vitamins to boost their immune system though while keeping the water quality pristine.
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Not liking the looks of it. If it dies in the next 12 hours, treat any other fish it has come in contact with with Formalin. Could be late stages brook or uronema.
Lymph you need to get stress lowered. It will go away on its own as conditions improve. However, if it is weakened immunity or subjected to some other nasty infections, it will be more prone. I would not treat at this time. When we get a nasty cold, we don't always take antibiotics. Just do not add any fish to the system that have infections or were around infections. Darken the tank it is in for a while. Add some hiding places. Keep lights off.
Lymph you need to get stress lowered. It will go away on its own as conditions improve. However, if it is weakened immunity or subjected to some other nasty infections, it will be more prone. I would not treat at this time. When we get a nasty cold, we don't always take antibiotics. Just do not add any fish to the system that have infections or were around infections. Darken the tank it is in for a while. Add some hiding places. Keep lights off.
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Ty. I just read that when lymp transfers fish like it did in my case it is due to open wounds. The virus needs an entry point. So it may need antibiotics to prevent the wound from getting infected. I am prepping a hospital tank for the blue gudgeon and company now.
^^ I think uronema is possible in this case, although it's also possible this is something bacterial in nature. If it is a bacterial infection, I think the odds of it being gram negative (deadly) are high. I gotta be honest with you, I think this fish is toast. However, below are treatment options for both uronema and a link on bacterial infections.
Uronema marinum:
Symptoms - These are the red sores often seen on chromis damsels. The disease seems mostly confined to damsels and clownfish, but I have seen some exceptions to that.
Treatment options - This is a very difficult disease to treat. Possible treatment options include: Metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex), acriflavine (ex.Acriflavine-MS), Chloroquine phosphate and copper. The problem is the fish can never be returned to the infected tank from which it came. Uronema is a “free living” parasite which does not require a fish host. So, going fallow will not eradicate it. Most fish seem protected from it via their natural immune system; but for some reason, chromis and some other fish are not always afforded this protection. Once a tank has Uronema, it must be assumed that the disease can survive in there almost indefinitely.
Formalin bath or freshwater dip may provide temporary relief for Uronema.
Why fish get bacterial infections: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bacterial-infections.191511/
melypr1985
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AAANNNDD that's why you get paid the big bucks! lol j/k But seriously glad you chimed in here!
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Oh also will bleach disinfection of the tank they are in now suffice for this? Even if the one showing signs is indeed a goner I want to try and protect/help the others he has come into contact with.
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If it's uronema, a formalin bath may provide temporary relief. But if it's something bacterial, using formalin is just putting undo stress upon the fish. So, it's a very tough call as I am unable to say for sure which it is. Below is a chromis with uronema for comparison purposes.
