Not sure if I have aefw??
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Macdaddynick1
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Macdaddynick1
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Lol I figured I should be more specific.
aran
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that image is from day 1 prior to the first dip also...but please circle the eggs so i make sure i know what im looking for.
I have found little clusters of green/brown eggs on the first and second dips but nothing since.
I have found little clusters of green/brown eggs on the first and second dips but nothing since.
Macdaddynick1
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Yeah the eggs are usually hidden at first , i think worms make acros sTN at the beginning, then the acro grows back but instead of encrusting it makes a small cave like the one you see on the pic , they usually lay eggs inside of those little caves. Then when the acro starts dying off more they lay eggs everywhere . GL
I use Bayer at 20-30 ml/8 oz. as a regular dip for all incoming corals. I back off the amount for deep water smooth skinned SPS to 15ml/8 oz. I usually have polyps out in the dip. Occasionally I have a sps that gets ***** in the dip but I think that is because it already was super stressed from shipping. Bayer is super easy on the corals. I beat AEFW 3 or so years ago. I left my main display SPS free for 12 weeks to be sure. I moved corals back a few every week over the course of a month or two. I dipped every 5 days for 12 weeks just to be sure. Probably overkill but it knocked them out no problem. You will get through this just fine as long as you get all sps out of the main tank. I covered some tiny spots of bases I missed when pulling the corals with putty as I found them over the first few weeks. Sometimes a coral base will grow under a ledge or little spot where a hole is.
aran
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3rd dip has been done and no eggs/AEFW seen in either the dip or the 3 rinse buckets thankfully!
I have 3 wrasses ( 2 x 6 line and 1 x melanarus ) in the frag/QT tank with the corals also.
All that is left in terms of SPS in main DT is:
Lepto
Turbinaria
Monti caps and undata
Large stylopora
Pavonas x3
Tubs stellate
No acros left
I chipped/scraped/cut all encrusting parts of the old colonies out of the display tank. There are also 3 wrasses ( 2 leopard and 1 yellow coris) in the main tank.
No further obvious damage to the corals from the AEFW that I can see. Cross your fingers!
I have 3 wrasses ( 2 x 6 line and 1 x melanarus ) in the frag/QT tank with the corals also.
All that is left in terms of SPS in main DT is:
Lepto
Turbinaria
Monti caps and undata
Large stylopora
Pavonas x3
Tubs stellate
No acros left
I chipped/scraped/cut all encrusting parts of the old colonies out of the display tank. There are also 3 wrasses ( 2 leopard and 1 yellow coris) in the main tank.
No further obvious damage to the corals from the AEFW that I can see. Cross your fingers!
aran
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Dipped again this am...again no flatworms . No further damage to any corals.
No definite eggs although I dug away at the bases of the affected colonies and basically anything that wasn't white skeleton was scraped clean...I'm getting a little paranoid anything not white is gone lol
No definite eggs although I dug away at the bases of the affected colonies and basically anything that wasn't white skeleton was scraped clean...I'm getting a little paranoid anything not white is gone lol
so am i, not sure how to handle it or fix it any suggestions ?kind of new have 120g, ive beeb everywhere on this website seems really helpful so far, just signed up today but some suggestions would be great!!!!!
aran
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so today i did an inspection before the dipping tomorrow
- no eggs or new damage but as i was staring at the bases of the damaged colonies it dawned on me that i may as well chop away all the dead exposed skeleton to make it easier to see if in fact there is ongoing damage or not.
Will post an update after dipping tomorrow
- no eggs or new damage but as i was staring at the bases of the damaged colonies it dawned on me that i may as well chop away all the dead exposed skeleton to make it easier to see if in fact there is ongoing damage or not.
Will post an update after dipping tomorrow
aran
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Dipped everything again this morning ...no eggs or worms seen.
This seems to be working ...I'm curious as to how we came up with the 8-12 weeks duration for dipping ? Not arguing it just trying to figure this out logically . I have seen no evidence of aefw since the first or second dip.
This seems to be working ...I'm curious as to how we came up with the 8-12 weeks duration for dipping ? Not arguing it just trying to figure this out logically . I have seen no evidence of aefw since the first or second dip.
pickupman66
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I believe there is that length of a dipping cycle because the last time in your tank without the flatworms so they start off and to make sure that you beat the flatworms at all life cycles. I've battled these before and beat them but it is hard. Unfortunately I lost the rest of my tank for some unidentified reason that to this day I still don't know
aran
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@Diesel if the main tank has been acro free for 4 weeks there should now be no AEFW that are still alive there right?
I have a few high end frags that have been fairly stressed with the dipping process and I had considered moving some of them back to the DT after dipping today.
No frags have shown any sign or eggs/AEFW. In fact I have not seen a single AEFW since the 2nd dip nor any eggs for the last 2-3 dips on any of the acros in QT.
Any thoughts?
I have a few high end frags that have been fairly stressed with the dipping process and I had considered moving some of them back to the DT after dipping today.
No frags have shown any sign or eggs/AEFW. In fact I have not seen a single AEFW since the 2nd dip nor any eggs for the last 2-3 dips on any of the acros in QT.
Any thoughts?
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It's possible that some AEFW can be still alive after 4 weeks, but they should be close to be dead by now.
In what manner are you corals stressed and you keep them in a QT tank?
Just a quick suggesting that always works is when you do a weekly water change on your DT use that water 75% to do a water change on your QT tank for your corals, and use 25% newly mixed water.
In that case your corals getting used to your tank parameters again and will make a come back from the stress zone.
How often you dip and do you use bayer?
aran
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Im dipping every 5-6 days in bayer
-the stress on the corals is that my main DT is not a zeo tank and has metal halides and t5 lighting whereas my 80g Frag tank turned QT is a brand new zeo tank ( only 2 months old) and has only t5 lights on it so quite different systems for the corals. Also have had to readjust all the dosing pumps for alk and ca for the smaller total coral load and water volume so have had some alk swing.
Overall just not nearly as stable or long term a system as the sps collection came from.
-the stress on the corals is that my main DT is not a zeo tank and has metal halides and t5 lighting whereas my 80g Frag tank turned QT is a brand new zeo tank ( only 2 months old) and has only t5 lights on it so quite different systems for the corals. Also have had to readjust all the dosing pumps for alk and ca for the smaller total coral load and water volume so have had some alk swing.
Overall just not nearly as stable or long term a system as the sps collection came from.
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Ah ok, I see.
It's not the dipping that stressed the coral but the big different in systems.
A system from just two months running is in it self not a good idea to drop SPS in there, it needs time to settle and mature longer.
Of course you didn't had a option here and I'll take a stressed coral over one with AEFW.
They will color up over time, I'm sure.
But it's up to you to put them back in the DT.
It's not the dipping that stressed the coral but the big different in systems.
A system from just two months running is in it self not a good idea to drop SPS in there, it needs time to settle and mature longer.
Of course you didn't had a option here and I'll take a stressed coral over one with AEFW.
They will color up over time, I'm sure.
But it's up to you to put them back in the DT.
aran
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yes exactly its the immature and different system which is the problem.
I will be dipping and water changing today.
Has been over 4 weeks...I may give another couple weeks then put them back in.
I will be dipping and water changing today.
Has been over 4 weeks...I may give another couple weeks then put them back in.
aran
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so just dipped again...we are into the 5th week of the battle with AEFW...have to say apart from the pain in the butt of doing the dipping its not much of a battle so far....have seen no AEFW since the second round of dipping. Bayer must really knock the tick out of them.
aran
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dip tomorrow will be the beginning of week 6
-> so far all looking good.
Im thinking another couple weeks and i should be golden to put the corals back in the DT
@Diesel you were right mate the frags are slowly coloring up as they get used to the new fresh QT conditions.
Think they will all be ok to make it through the final two weeks to complete a full 8 weeks of dipping.
-> so far all looking good.
Im thinking another couple weeks and i should be golden to put the corals back in the DT
@Diesel you were right mate the frags are slowly coloring up as they get used to the new fresh QT conditions.
Think they will all be ok to make it through the final two weeks to complete a full 8 weeks of dipping.
