Please talk me out of it!

[Kayanarka]

a Valentini comes with almost all the charm and not nearly the downside - in my limited experience.

Best answer yet, I will have to see if they will order me one for my fowler.

 

[polyppal]

Lol, it does look like that at first glance, but here is another tank in the same location.

Ok, I am leaving, I will use the rule of three.

Place looks legit, apologize to them for my ultimate LFS slander

 

[rhostam]

If you have to ask to be talked out of it, you already know the answer.

 

[polyppal]

When I want to introduce new fish I always think “is this worth the hassle of setting up and monitoring a QT for?”

unless it’s ultra rare or a long sought after fish the answer is usually NO

 

[Kayanarka]

If you have to ask to be talked out of it, you already know the answer.

Your not wrong, but this was a fun Friday night thread.

 

[Kayanarka]

When I want to introduce new fish I always think “is this worth the hassle of setting up and monitoring a QT for?”

unless it’s ultra rare or a long sought after fish the answer is usually NO

Long story about this.

So my reef tank is a 450xl. I was frustrated trying to quarantine in a 10 gallon tank, so I bought a 250xl. I ended up with a Hippo tang with ich. I was going to try to run my 450xl fallow for two months by putting everything into the 250xl for a 2 to 3 month round of copper treatment and all the other recommended things that go along with.

I thought the 250 was cycled so I moved two clowns and a tang over. They were showing signs of amonia poisoning so I put them back into the 450xl to give the 250 more time.

The Hippo died, and the rest of my fish looked fine and healthy. I also realized how much work It was going to be trying to get all of the fish out of my 450xl. So I gave up on the idea of trying to run my reef tank fallow.

It seemed really silly to leave the 250 up and running empty just in case I want to buy another fish for the 450, so I decided to just make it a fish only tank. So now the 250 is home to a CUC that includes a sand shifting star fish, A clown tang, a blue wrasse , and two purple dart fish.

Now I am sure someone may read all this and say For Shame!

What can I say. I am an amputee that bit off way more then I could chew. But both tanks are very healthy now, and I am living with ich.

 

[dvgyfresh]

If you don’t buy him I will! Lol

 

[polyppal]

Long story about this.

So my reef tank is a 450xl. I was frustrated trying to quarantine in a 10 gallon tank, so I bought a 250xl. I ended up with a Hippo tang with ich. I was going to try to run my 450xl fallow for two months by putting everything into the 250xl for a 2 to 3 month round of copper treatment and all the other recommended things that go along with.

I thought the 250 was cycled so I moved two clowns and a tang over. They were showing signs of amonia poisoning so I put them back into the 450xl to give the 250 more time.

The Hippo died, and the rest of my fish looked fine and healthy. I also realized how much work It was going to be trying to get all of the fish out of my 450xl. So I gave up on the idea of trying to run my reef tank fallow.

It seemed really silly to leave the 250 up and running empty just in case I want to buy another fish for the 450, so I decided to just make it a fish only tank. So now the 250 is home to a CUC that includes a sand shifting star fish, A clown tang, a blue wrasse , and two purple dart fish.

Now I am sure someone may read all this and say For Shame!

What can I say. I am an amputee that bit off way more then I could chew. But both tanks are very healthy now, and I am living with ich.

We’ll if you run it FOWLR the nice advantage is you can pull any remaining inverts and just run it hyposalinity for a month. Hypo is much less stressful than copper/meds on fish like tangs/anthias and they can happily handle it for a long time (it’s actually less stress on their bodies than normal seawater). That’ll take care of the ich in that tank (but it doesn’t necessarily kill things like velvet)

 

[Zionas]

1. They get very big.
2. You can’t really sustain them on pellets and flakes. Need fresh / live foods.
3. They produce a lot of waste, being big-time carnivores.
4. They’re prone to infectious diseases and oftentimes just don’t adapt well.
5. They’re more of an oddball, maybe “cute”, but by no means attractive.
6. Their teeth have to be prevented from overgrowing or else trimming them is going to be a pain involving use of anesthetics and cutting tools. Would you risk that?

There’s a reason why not many people keep them and keep them successfully. If you want a FOWLR, there’s better fish. I’d do Angels, Butterflies, and some Wrasses.

 

[Kayanarka]

We’ll if you run it FOWLR the nice advantage is you can pull any remaining inverts and just run it hyposalinity for a month. Hypo is much less stressful than copper/meds on fish like tangs/anthias and they can happily handle it for a long time (it’s actually less stress on their bodies than normal seawater). That’ll take care of the ich in that tank (but it doesn’t necessarily kill things like velvet)

The 250xl has been clean, the contaminated fish never entered. Now it has become a safe haven for fish that are being bothered in the 450xl. The 450 is the reef tank, and it has ich in it, it is just kept under control with good feeding habits and steady water parameters.

It is nice having the two large tanks. If I see a fish being picked on in the 450 I just move it to the 250. For example I had two Bengal cardinal fish that I thought were paired up. One day I noticed one of the two being picked on by not only his buddy, but about half the rest of the tank. I moved him to the 250. He lost his tail fins, but he is recovering nicely and has been coming out of hiding more often now.

I am pretty sure this means I have the ich in the 250 now hiding in wait, as I have read even a drop of water from a contaminated tank can transfer ich...

 

[i cant think]

When I want to introduce new fish I always think “is this worth the hassle of setting up and monitoring a QT for?”

unless it’s ultra rare or a long sought after fish the answer is usually NO

This is the same for me, although most of the time it’s yes because over here it’s hard to find any fish outside of the common clowns, damsels, dwarf angels ect… I finally found and LFS that had more variety though and wound up with uncommon-rare fish in my tank, I dread to total up the price, I know just from three fish it’s Atleast £300 if not 400 though (Darn tilefish stealing my heart the instant I realise what species it was).

 

[Kayanarka]

This is the same for me, although most of the time it’s yes because over here it’s hard to find any fish outside of the common clowns, damsels, dwarf angels ect… I finally found and LFS that had more variety though and wound up with uncommon-rare fish in my tank, I dread to total up the price, I know just from three fish it’s Atleast £300 if not 400 though (Darn tilefish stealing my heart the instant I realise what species it was).

You have to post pictures!

I walked away with a feather duster last night I will add a picture when he pops out.