Pump requires new motor every 3-12 months?

[ksed]

The word motor is pretty clear .

 

[Skindog]

How is the motor or impeller "consumable"? I've sent jebao an email and now I'll wait to see if I get a response, seems a little like a conflict of interest?

 

[sbash]

The word motor is pretty clear .

You are right, it seems pretty clear... That is the whole problem with the article, and bad translations in general... The ridiculously poor sentence structure calls into question everything about the article. I have worked with folks whose primary language is not English (I work in a technical field), and the amount of inaccurate nouns in a conversation is astounding. Quite often nouns are translated literally and to the simplest form, for example:

The thing that pushes the water needs to be replaced every 3 to 12 months. ​

So, what pushes the water? Well, the motor does, of course! Thus, the word motor is used in the translation... Yet that is technically incorrect, the impeller pushes the water; the motor drives the impeller...

How is the motor or impeller "consumable"? I've sent jebao an email and now I'll wait to see if I get a response, seems a little like a conflict of interest?

Exactly!!! The motor should be a sealed coil, and unless it seizes (lol, due to a bad impeller), it should never need to be replaced. I have had to replace a few impellers in my time, and it is usually due to the plastics wearing out (due to friction). The impeller still technically works, but it does a horrible job...

 

[trido]

I've had over 6 WP-15s die from 6-18 months and out of the three WP-20s I have, one died at six months and of the other two one is a back up and the other is chugging away at about a year old. You get what you pay for. A $100 power head that moves massive water is not going to last seven years like a Tunze. After burning through around $800 in powerheads in less than two years I upgraded to higher quality pumps.

 

[Peterski]

I have a rw-4 / rw-8 went to ****. it worked perfectly fine before I took my tank down 3 months ago, i was about to resell them and just notice they don't work now. I have useless lights on the remote and no rotation. If you need spare parts, hit me up with an offer.

 

[Vance]

My original wp40 lasted 3-4 years only replacing the power supply. I got a second one for another tank after they changed the body style of the motor (the whole unit not just the impeller) to the one pictured. I can attest that both of them lasted roughly a year after I replaced my original unit with one of the "new style"

 

[Vance]

A new motor is $40 through fish street without shipping. Compared to an eco-tech mp... someone else can do the math, I know those mp's barely make it past 5 years without a wet or dry side replacement...

 

[ksed]

Seems like quite a few failures within the timeframe described.

 

[reefwiser]

So Funny an I have Tunze pumps that are 30 years old and still work..)

 

[Flippers4pups]

I've had over 6 WP-15s die from 6-18 months and out of the three WP-20s I have, one died at six months and of the other two one is a back up and the other is chugging away at about a year old. You get what you pay for. A $100 power head that moves massive water is not going to last seven years like a Tunze. After burning through around $800 in powerheads in less than two years I upgraded to higher quality pumps.

May I question in what way they stopped working for you? Specifically, what failed? Controller malfunction/ failure? Power supply failure? Impeller shaft breakage? Impeller bushings fractured? Impeller bushings seized to impeller shaft? Impeller blades fractured/broken off. Power cord separation from motor housing/ water intrusion/electrical short?

I'm sorry for all the questions, but when people say the word "die" or "died" with nothing else to go with it, everyone involved in conversation would benefit from expanding on why it "died". I fully understand in certain instances there isn't a clear answer, but with powerheads, there is usually a failure point one can point to.

 

[G_Sanab922]

2 years on my RW, no problems here.

 

[Vance]

May I question in what way they stopped working for you? Specifically, what failed? Controller malfunction/ failure? Power supply failure? Impeller shaft breakage? Impeller bushings fractured? Impeller bushings seized to impeller shaft? Impeller blades fractured/broken off. Power cord separation from motor housing/ water intrusion/electrical short?

I'm sorry for all the questions, but when people say the word "die" or "died" with nothing else to go with it, everyone involved in conversation would benefit from expanding on why it "died". I fully understand in certain instances there isn't a clear answer, but with powerheads, there is usually a failure point one can point to.

Has to be a short or water damage, never any damage to impeller or shaft. Controller and power supply always works on new unit. Never cared enough for a $40 part to take it apart and figure out why the electromagnet inside stopped working.


*edit, oops! Thought you were asking me. So sorry!

 

[Vance]

If they would sell just the housing without a new magnet mount and impeller in it it would probably be cheaper still... I have more magnets and impellers than I know what to do with now.

 

[chipmunkofdoom2]

So does anyone know who makes these Coral Box pumps? I haven't been able to find anything conclusive, but it doesn't appear it's Jebao. Is FishStreet just saying that the motor is a wear part to try to get people to buy the more expensive Coral Box pumps? This warning doesn't appear on any of the Ebay or Amazon listing for Jebao pumps. Perhaps FishStreet is basically saying "you get no warranty with this product, buy at your own risk."

If nothing has changed with the way Jebao manufacturers the RW/PP pumps, I would expect the RW/PP pumps to have a similar lifespan as before this notice was posted.

 

[Violetdasy]

The Jebao wave makers have the same problem with all models.......every one needs to have the motor replaced every 3 mts to one year. you may have good luck but the company dose not stand behind there products.

 

[Violetdasy]

this information is not fake. I have gotten this information straight from the source. all the models need replacement after 3 mts to one year. the coral box is not any better.
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[chipmunkofdoom2]

I've had over 6 WP-15s die from 6-18 months and out of the three WP-20s I have, one died at six months and of the other two one is a back up and the other is chugging away at about a year old. You get what you pay for. A $100 power head that moves massive water is not going to last seven years like a Tunze. After burning through around $800 in powerheads in less than two years I upgraded to higher quality pumps.

As a concept, I agree with you: Tunze pumps are probably more reliable than Jebao/cheap Chinese pumps. But I don't think it's fair to imply that all Tunze pumps will last seven years, more than three times the warranty period. Some do last as long as yours, true. And some last even longer. But that doesn't mean all will. By the same token, I also don't think it's fair to imply that all Jebao/Jecod pumps will fail in just a few months. Some do fail early, yes. But there are plenty of accounts from happy Jebao/Jecod owners who have had their pumps running trouble-free for years.

I don't mean to discount your experience: if you've had bad luck with Chinese pumps and paying the price premium for a Tunze is worth it to you, then you definitely should. You should do what's right for you, your budget and your reef. For me, however, I'm more than willing to roll the dice on a cheap Chinese pump. There's a bit of uncertainty with that, for sure. But that's why Jebao pumps are a fraction of the price of the major name brands.

 

[happyhourhero]

Throw my name into the hat of those who have gotten well over a year out of my Jebaos so far and will buy again.

 

[delv2323]

this information is not fake. I have gotten this information straight from the source. all the models need replacement after 3 mts to one year. the coral box is not any better.
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I better throw the five I've had for between a year and two away post haste!!!

 

[jd371]

RW8, PP8 and DC 6000 still going strong and quite. The RW and DC I've had for 2 years now, the PP for about a year. I had the PH's lock up on me, but that was resolved when I switched out the ceramic bushings with ones I cut from airline hose.