Question about antibiotic dip

Tidal gardens just did his whole system. It can't be that bad. People are putting antibiotics in their system with everything they eat. I will read that. Thanks
 
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Tidal gardens just did his whole system. It can't be that bad. People are putting antibiotics in their system with everything they eat. I will read that. Thanks
That is different than the dip you proposed in your first post...
 
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Tidal gardens just did his whole system. It can't be that bad. People are putting antibiotics in their system with everything they eat. I will read that. Thanks
They removed their video after people shared their concerns on the use of antibiotics. I made a post in the thread for the video on reef2reef which seems to be removed now, but they replied to my post:
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Antibiotics have their place when used responsibly to address a specific issue, by people who understand the risks and how to mitigate them, and who use appropriate dosages. Dumping high importance antibiotics used in human medicine into our tanks (or dips) profolactically, without understanding what we're actually trying to solve, how to dispose of medicated water responsibly or what medicine or dosages are appropriate is reckless and contributes to the degradation of the effectiveness of some of the most useful medicine we've got.

Definitely worth reconsidering your usage, or at the very least, taking the proper steps to mitigate the risks.
 
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Is it ok to use amoxicillan instead cipro when making a long term dip for my torch corals. I'm afraid to use in my main system. I'm going to dip them for few hours to see if they improve.
I never seen any kind of positive effects when using amoxicillan as a dip and I've tried them all while trying to treat bleaching mushrooms.
If you can find cipro I'd highly reccomend using it as a dip as it's been proven to be very effective for certain uses. I've literally brought piles of slimy mushroom guts back to life with it as well as plenty of threads out there with folks using cipro dips to treat torches and anemones as well.
 
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I never seen any kind of positive effects when using amoxicillan as a dip and I've tried them all while trying to treat bleaching mushrooms.
If you can find cipro I'd highly reccomend using it as a dip as it's been proven to be very effective for certain uses. I've literally brought piles of slimy mushroom guts back to life with it as well as plenty of threads out there with folks using cipro dips to treat torches and anemones as well.
NOT to be used as a dip! That is like licking a Tylenol and expecting it to make your headache go away.
 
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NOT to be used as a dip! That is like licking a Tylenol and expecting it to make your headache go away.
Im sorry but im finding your comparison a bit ridiculous. My shrooms have had no tongue to lick or brains for headaches unless your counting the big fat pile of slime a few of them were before teatment.
Countless reefers have had great success using cipro as a dip to treat dieing and infected corals with great success. I'm sorry I haven't seen one reefer post a negative side effect. I just haven't.
I have been known to be wrong and not afraid to admit when in wrong and would love to see any actual data that says cipro is harming my corals or myself and other by treating my corals with cipro dip.
In fact from what ive seen I'd say it's quite the contrary and would love to see more information and data on its possible uses to treat infected corals. Id like to see more medicine tested honestly.

Here @Robert Ranciato like I said I haven't seen much on amoxicillan and coral uses but if you can get ahold of cipro I'd for sure use it as a last ditch effort if all else fails.
 
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Im sorry but im finding your comparison a bit ridiculous. My shrooms have had no tongue to lick or brains for headaches unless your counting the big fat pile of slime a few of them were before teatment.
Countless reefers have had great success using cipro as a dip to treat dieing and infected corals with great success. I'm sorry I haven't seen one reefer post a negative side effect. I just haven't.
I have been known to be wrong and not afraid to admit when in wrong and would love to see any actual data that says cipro is harming my corals or myself and other by treating my corals with cipro dip.
In fact from what ive seen I'd say it's quite the contrary and would love to see more information and data on its possible uses to treat infected corals. Id like to see more medicine tested honestly.

Here @Robert Ranciato like I said I haven't seen much on amoxicillan and coral uses but if you can get ahold of cipro I'd for sure use it as a last ditch effort if all else fails.
I didn't say using Cipro as a dip HARMS coral, just that dips are not the proper way to use antibiotics. You can report/post as much anecdotal "evidence" as you like, it won't change the way antibiotics work.
 
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But after I licked it, my headache did go away - it must've been the Tylenol!...
Unless the headache is caused by some type of bacterial infection that cipro is known to treat? I'm sorry I'm just not seeing any kind of corellation in relation to anything being discussed here.
 
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I didn't say using Cipro as a dip HARMS coral, just that dips are not the proper way to use antibiotics. You can report/post as much anecdotal "evidence" as you like, it won't change the way antibiotics work.
I'm posting my direct observations and personal experiences with using cipro as a dip. The evidence of its effectiveness as a dip can not only be seen in the thread I posted but found in countless threads with folks using it as a dip on many different corals for many different ailments with great success across the boards.
 
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Unless the headache is caused by some type of bacterial infection that cipro is known to treat? I'm sorry I'm just not seeing Amy kind of corellation in relation to anything being discussed here.
Antibiotics generally require longer periods of exposure to work, just like Tylenol requires actually being ingested to work. Dipping your corals in antibiotics is therefore akin to licking Tylenol and expecting either to work.
 
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Antibiotics generally require longer periods of exposure to work, just like Tylenol requires actually being ingested to work. Dipping your corals in antibiotics is therefore akin to licking Tylenol and expecting either to work.
See, it's not that hard to understand, right??
 
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Let's be fair. Once ingested, tylenol works in 15-30 munutes. Depending on severity of pain, higher doses or added pain killer would be added. Once digested in the system, it last 4 to 8 hours depending on situation.
 
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Antibiotics generally require longer periods of exposure to work, just like Tylenol requires actually being ingested to work. Dipping your corals in antibiotics is therefore akin to licking Tylenol and expecting either to work.
How might corals "ingest" these antibiotics anyway? Some of us have found specific dosages for longer periods of time to be most effective. In particular mushrooms, anemones as well as many torch coral dip success threads.
Cipro does not only work but I as well as many others have literally watched critters come back to life almost over night by using a cipro dip for longer periods of time.
We can't all be wrong in our observations can we?
 
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So, how long does it take a coral to ingest bacterial treatment once the guts are exposed?
That's still not how antibiotics work. Such a short exposure will not effectively kill enough bacteria... That's why they're prescribed to humans for 7-10 days or more.
 
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