Royal Blue LED's?

ReefLEDLights · Mar 13, 2015

60squared said:
Not to insult your intelligence Mr bill but I have never seen a 250 halide put down over 1200 par. I agree that some pigments mostly chlorophyll A use 630-660 nm range being said they receive only a small ammont of it 5 percent is doing me just fine

We do our PAR Measurements at 24". This is a more user friendly and less confusing as for SPS we want to see 200-500 PAR and most of our tanke are 18-30" Deep. A 400 watt Radium MH using a Reeflux Reflector puts out about 450 PAR @ 24". Some 250 watt MH loke the 10K XM come close to this. Just Remember that the intensity is the square of the distance.

The Radion Pro Spec of 1100 PAR does not specify a distance???

Its hard to say what distance they measured their PAR at, but given their components I would not be surprised if it was 12" Optics are the wild card and their chart does show a concentration or spotlighting in the middle.

A LED fixture we recently tested gave us over 500 PAR at 24" and over 2100 at 12"

NanaReefer · Mar 13, 2015

I'm curious how all your charts pertain to my question. FYI-I'm not using Radions nor MH.

ReefLEDLights · Mar 14, 2015

NanaReefer said:
I'm curious how all your charts pertain to my question. FYI-I'm not using Radions nor MH.

I consider the Royal Blue as the Primary Grow simply because it offers more PAR per watt than the top 420nm LEDs.

Back in the Day the 6.5K Iwaski was considered the best grow light. Its price has risen considerably due to the Indoor Hydroponics trend...It does grow both Tomatos and Corals very well.

Here is a standard Grow Spectrum Chart

Here is a spectrum chart from Sanjays research.

Note: The Predominant spike in energy is the 420-480nm Grow range found in the numerous photosynthesis charts.

That said here is one of Sanjays Reef MH Charts

I really have to pause when someone says you need this spectrum or this Green or Lime LED...

These MHs have been growing corals extremely well, even before the first PFO back when 80s Rock still rocked in the 90s and 2000.

I like to look at this research along with natural sunlight as the foundation of what a LED Fixture should do.

To be blunt...Spectrum matters....And for Corals consider the amount of Red blocked naturally and what they need and what makes them look better

Hope this helps

Bill

saltyphish · Mar 14, 2015

Exactly Nana. If your corals are happy and your happy what else matters? I love the windex look myself I really like to see the colors on my corals pop. Plus my Step-daughter gets annoyed when her friends she invited over ignore her and stare at my tank.

NanaReefer said:
So I'm on the right track with running my lights 14% whites and 60% blues? I like the look and my coral colors are great. Growth has been awesome as the majority have doubled in size within the last 9 months

NanaReefer · Mar 14, 2015

Thank you all for the input. Very much appreciated

Chaz D · Mar 14, 2015

Post up some pics!

Chaz D · Mar 14, 2015

Apparently I can't edit my own posts

Please disregard above post. Thanks!

60squared · Mar 14, 2015

Chaz D said:
Apparently I can't edit my own posts Please disregard above post. Thanks!

It's really annoying that you can't they should fix that

NanaReefer · Mar 14, 2015

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60squared · Mar 14, 2015

The stylophpra is a pretty knock out peice

NanaReefer · Mar 15, 2015

60squared said:
The stylophpra is a pretty knock out peice

Thank you! My very first SPS. Was positive it was gonna die-lol. Now if I could keep Zoas as well.

60squared · Mar 15, 2015

What's your issue with zoas?

ReefLEDLights · Mar 15, 2015

NanaReefer said:
Thank you! My very first SPS. Was positive it was gonna die-lol. Now if I could keep Zoas as well.

I have the same issue

I can keep a Red Carpet, Numerous SPS but for some reason zoas for me do not grow like crazy...

At least I know its not the lights.

Bill

NanaReefer · Mar 15, 2015

They all die, period. I've kept/keep clams, SPS/LPS, Shrooms, leathers just about everything thrives for me. Zoas hate me!! High nutrient or low, led or t5 doesn't matter. They'll do fine for a couple weeks, then just slowly start melting away. I no longer buy them.
Last Saturday I was given 2 frags. They were great up until day before yesterday. They're now struggling

60squared · Mar 15, 2015

Alot of different snails/starfish can develope s taste for zoas in my experience just watch them unless your not using good water or your alk/ph are swinging I don't see why you should have a problem with zoas expecially the low intensity your running

NanaReefer · Mar 18, 2015

Well parameter are spot on and stable. No swings at all. Every coral and I mean EVERY coral is thriving except for my Zoas. 6yrs reefing and I've never been able to keep them long term.
But....I'm hoping this time will be different. Bigger tank, better lighting, much better flow and more fish poop-lol. It's now been 12 days and they're still alive

rosshamsandwich · Mar 16, 2018

i have 465 nm and 445 nm leds..which ones should i use???

ReefLEDLights · Mar 17, 2018

DEATH BY SNU SNU said:
i have 465 nm and 445 nm leds..which ones should i use???

445 Without a doubt...

We Bin our Royal Blue to D36/37 for best color pop and growth...

The 465s will work but will provide a flat color with less fluorescence...

What Type of LEDs are they??? Big Difference between a Cree XR-E Royal Blue driven at 700 mA and their latest XT-E Royal Blue driven at 1200 mA... Its year 2018 and Generic 3 watt LEDs are not worthy of discussion as some T5 setups are more efficient.

Bill

rosshamsandwich · Mar 17, 2018

I don't need fluorescence. I already get that from my 450 nm leds. I just wanted to get rid of my red, orange, and green leds from my SBReefLights to get more esthetic look. the 450 nm leds are great, BUT it's almost TOO blue... I wonder if I could get the esthetic look I want with the 465 nm Leds...?