Show off your Poletti lineage Jawbreakers?

[LRT]

Here's mine i got from @Reefpro
I have seen versions of it with the orange and green coloration.
I haven't seen one quite like this solid green one floating around.
Has anyone gotten a solid green poletti or any other cool coloration from Poletti lineage?
Also have to add. I have some regular Jawbreakers as well.

This one here is super hardy and has been through alot and just keeps going.
Just kinda likes to sit on the sidelines in 75 par, so not light hungry. Doesn't mind super high Nutrient or swings or much of anything else though.

Going to use this thread to show progression.

Let's see your Polettis

 

[Ron Reefman]

Maybe you have the only ones? ;Hilarious;Hilarious;Hilarious;Wideyed

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[LRT]

I do remember seeing an Andre Ultimate Jawbreaker that @Legendary Corals has. Really nice coloring with the green mixed with the orange.
Nothing solid green yet but this Andres is nice as well!
I am really curious how the babies are going to turn out for me or if its a one time thing with solid green. If they will come out more mixed with the orange like Andres?
Man if it would only drop babies lol

 

[smarthawk]

Beautiful mushroom man. I'm curious as to what makes a mushroom a Jawbreaker? The pattern?

 

[LRT]

It was kind of discussed in threads here I tried to link one but didn't work.
Chaos website calls them callimorph of disco family.
I believe they have to be discos. And comes down to coloring, speckles, striping and patterns to be accepted as Jawbreaker.
The one i have is Poletti lineage taking on a solid green cap color but with the dark red speckling and striping.
Would also love to hear what knowledge other reefers can give on the history of Jawbreakers.

 

[Legendary Corals]

It was kind of discussed in threads here I tried to link one but didn't work.
Chaos website calls them callimorph of disco family.
I believe they have to be discos. And comes down to coloring, speckles, striping and patterns to be accepted as Jawbreaker.
The one i have is Poletti lineage taking on a solid green cap color but with the dark red speckling and striping.
Would also love to hear what knowledge other reefers can give on the history of Jawbreakers.

Thanks for the tag! I actually know a bit of the history regarding the Jawbreakers. I wrote an article regarding mushrooms and had insight on the origins of it along with the Tye Dye (the actual original Jawbreaker).

Article here: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/shrooms-the-latest-hot-trend.91/

But to get to your concern, this came from Kmaintl, who had very close relations to the origins of the Jawbreaker. I assumed that the original Jawbreaker came from a shop in Milpitas, California called Aquatic Gallery. The owner was Dr. Li, just to give context on how his discussion starts:

"What you state is correct. I never disclosed Dr. Li's name nor the first hobbyist that purchased the original mother from Dr. Li because he asked me not to and I respected his wishes. The first hobbyist that owned the Mother Jawbreaker (assumed it was named by Dr. Li as he was first to receive this import around 9 years ago now) was one of my customers who purchase reef equipment and I purchased some corals from him for my other customers. He shall remain nameless until he changes his mind and would like to reveal his identity. He lived in San Jose area and I still remember the month he brought the Mother Jawbreaker home, my jaw dropped when I saw it. So, the name for the mushroom was appropriate.

My colony is shared ownership with my son-in-law's younger brothers and we still have our original 1st daughter that was produced by the original Mother Jawbreaker that now resides with Zack at TDF. Since we've owned the colony for 9 years now, we've kept at least 9 granddaughters with nice amount of green and one of them actually had purple before that tank crash and we lost her. 2 years ago, we split the mother colony among the 3 partners and each has several green polyps in their colony. We still keep a mother colony where we frag out for sales, so we do have frags throughout the year. The zoo location is SF is where our mother colony is located.

The 2nd daughter went to a hobbyist in Sacto area, who sold it 3 years ago when he was relocated to Hawaii. He sold everything before moving. The 3rd daughter is still in the San Jose area and I don't know much about the history behind the 3rd daughter. But as of 3 years ago, the hobbyist that owned the original Mother Jawbreaker said the 3rd owner never dropped a baby, just got very big and happily settled in one place in his tank.

Getting back to history, Rommel made the San Jose hobbyist an offer he couldn't refuse (to this day my San Jose customer regrets letting go of the Mother Jawbreaker) and Rommel flip it and sold to Zack at TDF. My only regret is seeing the original Mother Jawbreaker escape from the West Coast. Zack didn't know that the Jawbreaker already had a name and said that Rommel referred to it as a mystery mushroom, unknown and one of a kind. So, Zack named it Mystery TieDye as that's what the Mother looks like.

There is at least 3 lineages of mushrooms called Jawbreakers and that's what makes it confusing. Unless yours leads back to TDF's Mother, you don't have the one that grows to about 5"-6" across, comes in with green and purple as it matures. The other lineages that came in about 9 years ago only grows to about 2"-2.5" and only red and orange. The lineage that came in about 2 years ago is smooth and small, but has the 3 colors quickly. The newest lineage also faster grower. HTH so, yes, one of Jawbreaker lineage is the same as the Mystery TieDye, not the others. "

It took a bit of digging, but I heard/read somewhere that Mark Poletti found his piece at a LFS, before the whole Jawbreaker deal came to light. His is most likely another strain, and is actually the majority of Jawbreakers available in the hobby to this day.

A new wave of wild Jawbreakers/ Eclectus have been making their wave into the hobby the past few years as well. I'm not sure where Andre found his strain, but it's proven to throw an insane amount of solid green, much different from the regular Poletti strain.

I believe the Jawbreaker you purchased looks more like an "Eclectus" shroom, which is known to have a slight green tint to it.

Here's a photo of an Eclectus online:

Here's the TDF Tye Dye (original Jawbreaker) that I unfortunately lost a few years ago in a crash/ equipment malfunction.

Here's two grown up versions of Mark Polleti's Jawbreaker:

And here is Andre's Ultimate Jawbreaker Colony:

Hopefully this gives you a bit of the background between the different "Jawbreaker" strains going around.

 

[NeSsyAqua]

Here's mine i got from @Reefpro
I have seen versions of it with the orange and green coloration.
I haven't seen one quite like this solid green one floating around.
Has anyone gotten a solid green poletti or any other cool coloration from Poletti lineage?
Also have to add. I have some regular Jawbreakers as well.

This one here is super hardy and has been through alot and just keeps going.
Just kinda likes to sit on the sidelines in 75 par, so not light hungry. Doesn't mind super high Nutrient or swings or much of anything else though.

Going to use this thread to show progression.

Let's see your Polettis

Hmm looks more like an electus to me

 

[LRT]

Right on @Legendary Corals thank you again for thourough detailed rundown on history. It is greatly appreciated and highly knowledgeable. I just love reading history like that. Its Priceless for new reefers like myself and sure going to be very helpful for anyone who reads in the future!

Here is thread I purchased the Poletti Lineage Jawbreaker from @Reefpro @NeSsyAqua.
Agreed the color does resemble that electus shroom @Legendary Corals posted.
Here's how it looked before I put it in my system. It did have normal orange and green tints like normal Jawbreakers have.
But it has taken on solid green cap color over time in my system.

Hopefully @Reefpro can chime in here and speak on lineage as to where and whom he recieved his Mom poletti lineage JB from.

Here it was when I bought it from the thread.

He has another Mom shown in thread shown here.

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[Legendary Corals]

Right on @Legendary Corals thank you again for thourough detailed rundown on history. It is greatly appreciated and highly knowledgeable. I just love reading history like that. Its Priceless for new reefers like myself and sure going to be very helpful for anyone who reads in the future!

Here is thread I purchased the Poletti Lineage Jawbreaker from @Reefpro @NeSsyAqua.
Agreed the color does resemble that electus shroom @Legendary Corals posted.
Here's how it looked before I put it in my system. It did have normal orange and green tints like normal Jawbreakers have.
But it has taken on solid green cap color over time in my system.

Hopefully @Reefpro can chime in here and speak on lineage as to where and whom he recieved his Mom poletti lineage JB from.

Here it was when I bought it from the thread.

He has another Mom shown in thread shown here.

Shrooms! Shrooms! Shrooms! Jawbreakers, Deadpool, CandyCrush, Kryptonite and MORE!!!

These shrooms have been in my system for many years and are 100% healthy! No fresh cuts here! All pieces are WYSIWYG Shipping is $55 to the lower 48, FREE SHIPPING ALL ORDERS OVER $600 Shipping within FL is $25 I am located in West Palm Beach, FL Unfortunately, due to the current COVID-19...

www.reef2reef.com

Wow! They look like two different mushrooms now. That looks more like a Poletti Jawbreaker now for sure.

And agreed, I love finding out information on the history of certain coral strains. I've done a lot of digging in the past regarding where zoanthids originated from and try to incorporate the names of the people who gave them their iconic names on my website as a little homage!

 

[LRT]

Wow! They look like two different mushrooms now. That looks more like a Poletti Jawbreaker now for sure.

And agreed, I love finding out information on the history of certain coral strains. I've done a lot of digging in the past regarding where zoanthids originated from and try to incorporate the names of the people who gave them their iconic names on my website as a little homage!

Thank you @Legendary Corals
It does look like a totally different shroom in my system. I started a nutrients thread as alot of my corals are throwing super heavy toxic and regular greens. This mushroom along with a few others has totally morphed into a brand new shroom over last cpl months and all I've done was upgrade my lights, upped and stabilized my nutrients.
I'll be honest I was pretty much going to be OK with this shroom ending up being an Electus. That one you posted is epic!
But my mind has been blown with the transformation of this shroom last cpl months and wanted to see what kind of input other reefers had.

Really do appreciate the input here.

Thanks again!

Here's that thread in case anyone is interested. I've shown a cpl shrooms in it that have totally morphed last cpl months. And just can't seem to get any info regarding it all!

Lets talk about High Nutrients, Light Spectrum and Coloration and the correlation if any?

I am most definitely witnessing a certain trend of the toxic and solid green coloration starting to show up in alot of my mushrooms and other corals lately. Not sure if this has anything to do with this or not. I did experience a Nitrate overdose that was beyond registerable for a couple weeks...

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[LRT]

A couple pictures of her alongside some other Jawbreakers for comparison

 

[Will Wohlers]

Did your little she hulk jawbreaker drop any little ones for you yet? I'm curious to see how they end up. That really is wild. Totally digging it my friend

 

[LRT]

Did your little she hulk jawbreaker drop any little ones for you yet? I'm curious to see how they end up. That really is wild. Totally digging it my friend

No sir not yet. It will be very interesting to see what her offspring do thats for sure
I'll keep the thread updated with updates as she progresses. She is getting alot more marbling yet still green.

 

[Will Wohlers]

Can't wait to see the progress with you.

 

[intricate_reefer]

I just picked one up about a week ago. I’m guessing it’s a Poletti. The vendor got a huge colony from a guy who had them for about 10 years.

Mine

Mother

 

[intricate_reefer]

The other one circled in this picture is suppose to be a JB as well. I think it got a little tint of green from too low of light. The other green/yellow ones with red are eclectus though

That other JB when it was in some higher light and younger.

 

[Will Wohlers]

Yours looks to be correct for a poletti jawbreaker. Impossible to know for sure because of all the lines that have come in now that are nearly identical to the og poletti/tye dye strain. The poletti is the most readily available true jawbreaker and it is probably safe to say yours is a poletti based on that alone.

The other ones in the pictures seem to be electus and kryptonites. Electus is very different then a jawbreaker. The kryptonites are considered a form of jawbreaker just with a different color scheme.

Your jb is on its way to being an above average specimen when it gets older and if that is truly its mother then it's got a very high possibility of turning into something great, yours has a lot of above average green already and all those red patches will continue to come through more and more. Then there's momma with her nice size purple splotches.... very very few ever get purple. Even if it's a way above average jawbreaker with tons of red and green, the chances of purple developing are extremely small. I've often wondered out of all the hundreds and thousands of poletti jawbreakers out there now, what percent actually have purple in them.

Great pickup. Mind me asking who the vendor was? You can pm it to me if you're not comfortable saying in public.
Will

 

[intricate_reefer]

Yours looks to be correct for a poletti jawbreaker. Impossible to know for sure because of all the lines that have come in now that are nearly identical to the og poletti/tye dye strain. The poletti is the most readily available true jawbreaker and it is probably safe to say yours is a poletti based on that alone.

The other ones in the pictures seem to be electus and kryptonites. Electus is very different then a jawbreaker. The kryptonites are considered a form of jawbreaker just with a different color scheme.

Your jb is on its way to being an above average specimen when it gets older and if that is truly its mother then it's got a very high possibility of turning into something great, yours has a lot of above average green already and all those red patches will continue to come through more and more. Then there's momma with her nice size purple splotches.... very very few ever get purple. Even if it's a way above average jawbreaker with tons of red and green, the chances of purple developing are extremely small. I've often wondered out of all the hundreds and thousands of poletti jawbreakers out there now, what percent actually have purple in them.

Great pickup. Mind me asking who the vendor was? You can pm it to me if you're not comfortable saying in public.
Will

Thanks for the info and giving me some insight, it’s greatly appreciated. Will the green continue to come in as well? The vendor was Ben over at BSA. I have gotten most of my discos from him.

 

[Will Wohlers]

Yes it will continue to develop just like the red. Green just isn't a primary color so there won't be as much of it as the red. Ben always has some really nice jawbreakers and is someone you can trust when he gives you lineage.

 

[Saltyreef]

Mine are from kmaintl back in 2012.
Not sure when polettis started becoming popular but they look similar.

And fwiw, mine get orange and purple coloration aside from the yellow red and green.
I think this has to do with maturity though.