Skimmer suggestions for 90G

[Jrco226]

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[minus9]

I'm currently building a 90g shallow sps tank and the Nyos is at the top of my list. If I can find another skimmer with the same build quality that's just as quiet and less expensive, I'll have a new contender.

 

[Jrco226]

I'm currently building a 90g shallow sps tank and the Nyos is at the top of my list. If I can find another skimmer with the same build quality that's just as quiet and less expensive, I'll have a new contender.

Any concerns with the pump and impeller breaking? Seems to be the only negative I can find about the nyos.

 

[Liquid360]

I'm currently building a 90g shallow sps tank and the Nyos is at the top of my list. If I can find another skimmer with the same build quality that's just as quiet and less expensive, I'll have a new contender.

Good luck with that! Lol that skimmer is DEAD silent. It's almost bad because I can't tell if it's on. No hum/whir or any noise at all. Beautiful hardware. I DID have one issue with the motor, but all it took was an email with a video and they overnighted me a new one along with prepaid shipping to return the other one. I didn't pay a cent. Stuff happens there's no way around that, but you want a company that backs up their product and Ecotech is the best I've dealt with on any reef hardware.

 

[smokin'reefer]

+1 on the nyos skimmer. I just put a nyos 120 on my daughter's tank. The tanks a little bit smaller than what you are talking about but this thing is literally dead quiet and started pulling some very dark skim after its initial break-in period I was thinking about putting this one on my 90 gallon tank. My other tank sounds similar to yours, 90 gallon display and probably 110 total water volume. What I have been reading it seems the 120 would be big enough for that size tank.

 

[Scurvy]

Im also running a Nyos120 and Love it. As others have said its dead silent and pulls nice, bunk skimmate.

I fiddled with a Bubble Magus DC for 6 months and never could get a consistent skim from it. Wasnt a fan of the DC skimmer.

 

[Liquid360]

I subscribe to the "Always Buy Bigger" camp as my plan is to eventually get a larger tank. Who doesn't have said plans? I have a 93g display and a 30g sump, but went with the 160 such that it'll still be good in my next tank. You'll never regret going a size larger, but you'll likely regret going too small... obviously this is my own experience, but I think it's valid [emoji6]

 

[Fritzhamer]

How would you rate the noise level with the Deltec?

It's pretty close to silent. My return pump is a Tunze silence .40 and you cant hear the skimmer pump over the return. The air intake is audible with the door open. It pulls an insane amount of air, even compared to the Tunze 9410, which is an air cannon.

I also like the adjustment tube as it gives a clear indication of exactly where the water level is. The valve also allows for very precise adjustment. It's just a really well R&D'd skimmer. I was a bit skeptical due to the design not being what everyone else does but it's extremely well thought out and effective.

 

[Jrco226]

It's pretty close to silent. My return pump is a Tunze silence .40 and you cant hear the skimmer pump over the return. The air intake is audible with the door open. It pulls an insane amount of air, even compared to the Tunze 9410, which is an air cannon.

I also like the adjustment tube as it gives a clear indication of exactly where the water level is. The valve also allows for very precise adjustment. It's just a really well R&D'd skimmer. I was a bit skeptical due to the design not being what everyone else does but it's extremely well thought out and effective.

I'm leaning towards going with the deltec 1455. My only concern is if this is over kill and will make the skimmer somewhat ineffective. I have a 90g display with a 20 gallon sump. I'm going to try and make my rock work as minimalistic as possible so let's say total water volume of 90 with a well fed heavy stocked tank. What is everyone's thoughts?

 

[sromero287]

NYOS 160 its a beast and dead silence, then if u like a good support and service there's no one like ecotech, i tried the Vertex 130,150, Bubble Magus Curve 5-7 and RO Regal and RO with AC Pumps (like 3 of them) After all of those once i bought and used NYOS never will go back. Rock solid performance, awesome look and best service. My 0.02 Good luck and happy reefing.

 

[Fritzhamer]

I'm leaning towards going with the deltec 1455. My only concern is if this is over kill and will make the skimmer somewhat ineffective. I have a 90g display with a 20 gallon sump. I'm going to try and make my rock work as minimalistic as possible so let's say total water volume of 90 with a well fed heavy stocked tank. What is everyone's thoughts?

The Deltec 1351 would leave you room to spare. Again you and I have the same setup. Going with a larger skimmer isn't a great idea. It isn't better or more efficient, its less in fact. I used to be in the "bigger is better" camp but it just leads to sways in your parameters.

With a "too big skimmer" the neck and body are designed to "idle" at a bio-input larger than you would be providing on a daily basis. At first it would be amazing but after a week or two it will catch up to your bio-load and struggle to produce foam. Most of the skimmate (because there isn't enough) will just gum up the neck or stay in the neck trying to get up over the top. This skimmate is still in the water column, it's just in the neck. Once you cut the power to the skimmer you'll dump that back in the tank. To compensate for this you tend to have to run the skimmer wet which can effect your salinity.

Also with a "too big skimmer", while you run it for 24 hours its only doing it job a few of those hours. The rest of the time its struggling to get the small (for it) amount of bio load out of the water and into the cup. You could run it for just a few hours but then again you're creating parameter sway. You would be greatly aerating the water for the hours it was running and then not while it was off. Not ideal. If the goal is to have rock stable parameters, not only do you want them stable but any changes should happen slowly. A properly sized skimmer would remove them efficiently and not drastically.

As for the "maybe I'll get a bigger tank" methodology, maybe you will. You'll probably buy all new stuff then too. If you are all about a bigger skimmer than you'll want an even BIGGER skimmer for your bigger tank. The for sale forum on every site if full of "upgrade that didn't happen" sales. I think its better to buy for the tank you have not the one you are planning. If you end up with a bigger tank then get a bigger skimmer but maybe first try the one you have. You might be surprised.

 

[Jrco226]

The Deltec 1351 would leave you room to spare. Again you and I have the same setup. Going with a larger skimmer isn't a great idea. It isn't better or more efficient, its less in fact. I used to be in the "bigger is better" camp but it just leads to sways in your parameters.

With a "too big skimmer" the neck and body are designed to "idle" at a bio-input larger than you would be providing on a daily basis. At first it would be amazing but after a week or two it will catch up to your bio-load and struggle to produce foam. Most of the skimmate (because there isn't enough) will just gum up the neck or stay in the neck trying to get up over the top. This skimmate is still in the water column, it's just in the neck. Once you cut the power to the skimmer you'll dump that back in the tank. To compensate for this you tend to have to run the skimmer wet which can effect your salinity.

Also with a "too big skimmer", while you run it for 24 hours its only doing it job a few of those hours. The rest of the time its struggling to get the small (for it) amount of bio load out of the water and into the cup. You could run it for just a few hours but then again you're creating parameter sway. You would be greatly aerating the water for the hours it was running and then not while it was off. Not ideal. If the goal is to have rock stable parameters, not only do you want them stable but any changes should happen slowly. A properly sized skimmer would remove them efficiently and not drastically.

As for the "maybe I'll get a bigger tank" methodology, maybe you will. You'll probably buy all new stuff then too. If you are all about a bigger skimmer than you'll want an even BIGGER skimmer for your bigger tank. The for sale forum on every site if full of "upgrade that didn't happen" sales. I think its better to buy for the tank you have not the one you are planning. If you end up with a bigger tank then get a bigger skimmer but maybe first try the one you have. You might be surprised.

I think that settles it for me. I'm going to put in my order with Adam today for the sca1351. Thanks for the input.

 

[Liquid360]

The Deltec 1351 would leave you room to spare. Again you and I have the same setup. Going with a larger skimmer isn't a great idea. It isn't better or more efficient, its less in fact. I used to be in the "bigger is better" camp but it just leads to sways in your parameters.

With a "too big skimmer" the neck and body are designed to "idle" at a bio-input larger than you would be providing on a daily basis. At first it would be amazing but after a week or two it will catch up to your bio-load and struggle to produce foam. Most of the skimmate (because there isn't enough) will just gum up the neck or stay in the neck trying to get up over the top. This skimmate is still in the water column, it's just in the neck. Once you cut the power to the skimmer you'll dump that back in the tank. To compensate for this you tend to have to run the skimmer wet which can effect your salinity.

Also with a "too big skimmer", while you run it for 24 hours its only doing it job a few of those hours. The rest of the time its struggling to get the small (for it) amount of bio load out of the water and into the cup. You could run it for just a few hours but then again you're creating parameter sway. You would be greatly aerating the water for the hours it was running and then not while it was off. Not ideal. If the goal is to have rock stable parameters, not only do you want them stable but any changes should happen slowly. A properly sized skimmer would remove them efficiently and not drastically.

As for the "maybe I'll get a bigger tank" methodology, maybe you will. You'll probably buy all new stuff then too. If you are all about a bigger skimmer than you'll want an even BIGGER skimmer for your bigger tank. The for sale forum on every site if full of "upgrade that didn't happen" sales. I think its better to buy for the tank you have not the one you are planning. If you end up with a bigger tank then get a bigger skimmer but maybe first try the one you have. You might be surprised.

After 30yrs, this has not been my experience. To each his own. You're making sweeping generalizations and you're simply incorrect. Unfortunately, I have no motivation and even less desire to defend my position. What you have in and what you feed your tank are the important variables, not the size of the skimmer.

Best wishes with your new skimmer!! I hadn't realized you'd be buying from Adam. I'd go that direction as well. He's a great guy and wouldn't ever steer you wrong!

 

[Fritzhamer]

I too have thirty years experience in the hobby. Everyone's tank and feeding/stocking habits are different. Part of the fun in this hobby for me is the gadgetry of it.

While there maybe people that stock a 90 gallon tank with seven heavily fed angels and six tangs, it probably isn't the norm on a reefing site. A fowler would have different concerns. My sweeping generalizations are based on my experience and the discoveries made with fellow sps keepers over the years. Your mileage may vary.

I think you'll love the skimmer Jrco226. Happy Reefing!

 

[Jrco226]

I too have thirty years experience in the hobby. Everyone's tank and feeding/stocking habits are different. Part of the fun in this hobby for me is the gadgetry of it.

While there maybe people that stock a 90 gallon tank with seven heavily fed angels and six tangs, it probably isn't the norm on a reefing site. A fowler would have different concerns. My sweeping generalizations are based on my experience and the discoveries made with fellow sps keepers over the years. Your mileage may vary.

I think you'll love the skimmer Jrco226. Happy Reefing!

I have spoken to Adam about my options and I'm right in between this and the larger 1455 so why not see what this skimmer is capable of. Plus this tank will be lightly stocked for a few months.

 

[luke33]

The 1455 is what I would go with and by no means is to large for a 90g, if you must have a delete. It's an average designed skimmer and pulls only 600lph air. I am not impressed with them at all.

That being said I know you'll get great cs from Adam.

 

[Jrco226]

The 1455 is what I would go with and by no means is to large for a 90g, if you must have a delete. It's an average designed skimmer and pulls only 600lph air. I am not impressed with them at all.

That being said I know you'll get great cs from Adam.

That's one of this biggest selling points of this for me is dealing with someone who stands 100% behind their products. Adam, believes it's a great product so I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't pan out then worse things have happened .

 

[Liquid360]

I have zero experience with a FOWLR tanks so I'll take your word. Anyway, glad things worked out.
Happy Reefing.

 

[luke33]

That's one of this biggest selling points of this for me is dealing with someone who stands 100% behind their products. Adam, believes it's a great product so I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't pan out then worse things have happened .

That's a good way of looking at it. To me it's like buying a Lamborghini with a 4 banger in it.

 

[Mark Gray]

Hi all I saw some posts about the Life Reef heating the tank up was a little concerned but not any more my house right now is at 92 degree's my the next thing I got to work on is the AC lol. My tank is at 79 now I do have a fan on it and just stuck my hand in my sump no heat from this pump at all. But the other thing that mayde me go with Life Reef is you can use any pump AC DC if you want