skimmerless tank show off thread

[fishlover1478]

What is rfas?

Livestock in 120G

Fish
10 Ocelarius Clown fish
6 Pajama Cardinals
5 Royal Gramma
1 Cherub Angel
1 Yellow Tang

Invertebrate
1 Sea Apple two yrs in tank
1 Flame Scallop
1 Long tip anemone
1 RBTA
6 Flower Anemone
2 Gorgonuans
1 Yellow Ball Sponge
1 Orange Elephant Ear Sponge
2 Red Tree Sponge
2 Orange Tree Sponge
1 Orange Bryozoan

Coral
1 Green Leather
Lots of GSP

flower anemone sometimes called rock flower anemone

 

[Subsea]

flower anemone sometimes called rock flower anemone

Flower Anemones are the bomb. Very easy to take care off. They prefer lower flow than sponges & gorgonians. I have had some > 5 yrs that I never feed. Apparently, he was photosynthetic and he captured flake food.

I feed 4 mussels a day. All anemone get some in addition to flake food.

 

[Subsea]

120G skimmerless & high energy at > 50 tank volumes per hour

 

[Lorenz725]

My 2 drop off tanks. No skimmers both almost 2 years old. 20% water change every 2 weeks.

 

[ThePurple12]

OP, sounds like you need an algae turf scrubber. You can DIY them for like $40 (most of this is lighting). Or you can buy one for a much higher price. They allow you to have a greater bioload.

 

[fishlover1478]

OP, sounds like you need an algae turf scrubber. You can DIY them for like $40 (most of this is lighting). Or you can buy one for a much higher price. They allow you to have a greater bioload.

i don't have fish
i'm still researching what i want to do for filters

 

[ThePurple12]

i don't have fish
i'm still researching what i want to do for filters

I meant once you do have fish, considering your list. Here’s what got me started: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1977420

 

[Subsea]

@quirkylemon103

[i'm planning a crazy high bioload for my 75 i come from the freshwater world so generally my approach to high bioloads is to just feed crazy and water change crazy]

I don’t think your proposed fish bioload is heavy. More important to fish is to be stress free. As a generalization, crowded fish create social unrest in the tank.

Getting back to biofiltration, the more diverse your biofilter the more longevity will be your success.

 

[fishlover1478]

@quirkylemon103

[i'm planning a crazy high bioload for my 75 i come from the freshwater world so generally my approach to high bioloads is to just feed crazy and water change crazy]

I don’t think your proposed fish bioload is heavy. More important to fish is to be stress free. As a generalization, crowded fish create social unrest in the tank.

Getting back to biofiltration, the more diverse your biofilter the more longevity will be your success.

we changed the list a bit so there is less fish this is my first reef tank so i think it's probably better if i have less fish for now

 

[fishlover1478]

I meant once you do have fish, considering your list. Here’s what got me started: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1977420

i've read about algae turf scrubbers but leaning toward macro reactor not for a great reason though i just think they look cool lol

 

[fishlover1478]

i hijacked my own thread
can we move anymore discussion about my tank to a separate thread like my stocking thread or a pm

 

[Subsea]

Algae Turf Scrubbers are most efficient at removing nutrients in a small space. Always consider ease of access when installing.

If you have room, I prefer algae refugium. It has same nutrient export capacity as ATS plus a refugium for nutrient recycling live pods to display.

 

[Subsea]

i've read about algae turf scrubbers but leaning toward macro reactor not for a great reason though i just think they look cool lol

Macro reactor?

Chaeto reactor?

Macro refugium?

Explain macro reactor.

 

[fishlover1478]

Macro reactor?

Chaeto reactor?

Macro refugium?

Explain macro reactor.

chaeto reactor i really want this one https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/a-r-i-d-n18-macroalgae-reactor-pax-bellum.html

 

[Subsea]

chaeto reactor i really want this one https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/a-r-i-d-n18-macroalgae-reactor-pax-bellum.html

I think I built something more economical. It is bulky at over 4’ tall, but I prefer the ability I have to use other macro beside chaeto. Mine grows grape Caulerpa which I sell to LFS as live food with pods. I used 3” clear pvc at $10/ft with $50 led light bar.

PS. Your dream “macros reactor” is more sexy at $500

 

[SMSREEF]

I like a display fuge. They look good, are a great place for pods to reproduce, can have a layer of mud, house other inverts you don’t want in the main tank. For $500 you could set up a killer sump with display fuge.

It is a whole different biome in your tank to help process nutrients and create food for your coral and fish. You can remove nutrients by removing algae or recycle by feeding it to your fish and inverts in the main tank.

Using a reverse light schedule will also help keep your pH up at night.

 

[Timfish]

Ok!

 

[fishlover1478]

I like a display fuge. They look good, are a great place for pods to reproduce, can have a layer of mud, house other inverts you don’t want in the main tank. For $500 you could set up a killer sump with display fuge.

It is a whole different biome in your tank to help process nutrients and create food for your coral and fish. You can remove nutrients by removing algae or recycle by feeding it to your fish and inverts in the main tank.

Using a reverse light schedule will also help keep your pH up at night.

what sump would you recommend form 500

 

[iamacat]

chaeto reactor i really want this one https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/a-r-i-d-n18-macroalgae-reactor-pax-bellum.html

Ahh yes the sexy paxebellum. Much like my ex, lots of maintenance. I was in a pinch with timing my new tank. I started off with a in sump fuge for 2weeks while my skimz algae reactor arrived. The tunze mar was unavailable and the skimz was 50% off so I went with it just to clean up my sump.
After 2 weeks the tunze was available and I ordered it. The difference between the 2 is incredible. All the pieces in the skimz were terrible for the user. Tunze is just a tube. I am able to simply reach in at remove what I need. No algae clips or towers.
think about maintaining something like the pax. I would lose interest. I did in only 2 weeks with something similar

 

[nashvillian]

@quirkylemon103

I have a similar high load tank 65 gal, but I do run a Reef Octo Classic 90 HOB and do water changes at 7.5% a week through an AWC and my nitrates are STILL 20 ppm. I don’t think your proposed stock list is doable without any kind of active nutrient export in the aquarium. Why so opposed to a skimmer? Mine is dead silent and super efficient.

snowflake clown
Midas blenny
Target mandarin
Orchid dottyback
Yellowtail Pygmy angel
Kole tang
Melanarus Wrasse
Lyretail anthias
Pink spotted watchman goby/tiger shrimp
Blood red/skunk cleaner shrimp