Tank Transfer Method

Bellasmith · Oct 15, 2020

I have a question. Does 3 gallons bowl is too small for a goldfish?

JumboShrimp · Oct 15, 2020

I’d say you’d be fine even if your question is asking about three (3) single-gallon bowls. If you scroll up (Post #471) to my three bowl TTM photo, that’s a tiny Purple Tang (about silver dollar size) in a glass 2-gallon fish bowl. It’s very temporary, as you know. With a goldfish in a 1-gallon bowl, I’d just keep ahead of the ammonia by moving the fish every 48 hours, max. But if you mean three (3) 3-gallon bowls, you are definitely OK.

Bellasmith · Oct 26, 2020

Thank you so much. Do you know any trusted place to buy the fishbowl?

LeftyReefer · Oct 26, 2020

Another option would be 5.5 Gal tanks.
They are only about $13 at the LFS.

AcanthurusRex · Oct 26, 2020

TTM seems like a lot of work for a methodology that is only effective for ich. Velvet, brook and Uronema are all arguably worse and just as prevalent. I have never considered wasting my time with this method. No fish would get into my system using this methodology.
There are untreatable fish like mandarins, I simply don’t consider them.

JumboShrimp · Oct 26, 2020

On the one hand, it can be considered a lot of work just for Ich; but then too, you are using the time in a ‘sterile’ environment for about 2 week’s worth of isolation and observation— so I suppose that has value as well. It’s a give-and-take, as so many things are. All valuable points of view.

Squidward · Oct 26, 2020

AcanthurusRex said:
TTM seems like a lot of work for a methodology that is only effective for ich. Velvet, brook and Uronema are all arguably worse and just as prevalent. I have never considered wasting my time with this method. No fish would get into my system using this methodology.
There are untreatable fish like mandarins, I simply don’t consider them.

It was well worth it for me. Got a 300g with 30+fish including 11 Tangs. All disease free going on for just over a year now. I did use prazipro with some of the TTM. None of my fish had to go through copper.

AcanthurusRex · Oct 27, 2020

Squidward said:
It was well worth it for me. Got a 300g with 30+fish including 11 Tangs. All disease free going on for just over a year now. I did use prazipro with some of the TTM. None of my fish had to go through copper.

Good that you were lucky. Doesn’t contradict anything I wrote.
Humblefish has been working on a TTM method incorporating H2O2 that might be effective for velvet. Still doesn’t do anything for Uronema which is prevalent in anthias currently. Maybe add metro.
Unless you collected the fish yourself, they have already been exposed to copper.

rebels23 · Oct 27, 2020

Didn't Humble say H2O2 addresses Brook and Uronema also?

There is also a TTM that addresses Ich and Velvet.

Biff0rz · Nov 13, 2020

Question on this - should I not set up the next transfer tank too early to avoid ammonia issues? Or is it ok to set up the 'transfer to' tank a day or two early, move the fish, clean the old one, repeat ?

JumboShrimp · Nov 13, 2020

If I follow you, there would be nothing in the ‘next’ tank in line to foul the water (e.g., nothing to produce ammonia), until the fish arrives in that tank. So you should be Ok.

Biff0rz · Nov 13, 2020

JumboShrimp said:
If I follow you, there would be nothing in the ‘next’ tank in line to foul the water (e.g., nothing to produce ammonia), until the fish arrives in that tank. So you should be Ok.

That's what I thought, double checking, thanks!

rebels23 · Nov 13, 2020

Biff0rz said:
Question on this - should I not set up the next transfer tank too early to avoid ammonia issues? Or is it ok to set up the 'transfer to' tank a day or two early, move the fish, clean the old one, repeat ?

You can do it early with no harm. I setup the tank the day I do the transfer

Biff0rz · Nov 28, 2020

So I think I am done? Or do I need to do one more transfer? They have been in ttm for 11 days but I've done 6 transfers. See below:

lapin · Nov 28, 2020

Looks done to me.

Biff0rz · Nov 28, 2020

lapin said:
Looks done to me.

I thought they needed to be in there for 12 days? My math says 11.3 days in total. Not sure if there is some flex in that?

lapin · Nov 28, 2020

It looks like you have followed this pretty close.
Ich will usually drop off after 7 days
You could do one more transfer if you feel uneasy. I do not. Day 14 they go in the DT.

Per Humblefish:
A trophont will typically spend 3-7 days feeding on a fish then drop off and turn into a cyst while theronts grow inside..........
How long it takes for theronts to be released varies greatly, depending upon water temperature, which strain of ich you are dealing with, etc. The average time is 2 weeks....

Day 1 – fish in tank
Day 2 – 1st transfer at 36 hours
Day 4 – 2nd transfer at 36 hours
Day 5 – 3rd transfer at 36 hours
Day 7 – 4th transfer at 36 hours
Day 10 – 5th transfer at 71 hours
Day 13 – 6th transfer at 71 hours

Biff0rz · Nov 28, 2020

lapin said:
It looks like you have followed this pretty close.
Ich will usually drop off after 7 days
You could do one more transfer if you feel uneasy. I do not. Day 14 they go in the DT.

Per Humblefish:
A trophont will typically spend 3-7 days feeding on a fish then drop off and turn into a cyst while theronts grow inside..........
How long it takes for theronts to be released varies greatly, depending upon water temperature, which strain of ich you are dealing with, etc. The average time is 2 weeks....

Day 1 – fish in tank
Day 2 – 1st transfer at 36 hours
Day 4 – 2nd transfer at 36 hours
Day 5 – 3rd transfer at 36 hours
Day 7 – 4th transfer at 36 hours
Day 10 – 5th transfer at 71 hours
Day 13 – 6th transfer at 71 hours

Awesome! I have one more fish in ttm on a different schedule. Once he's done I'll bring them together in qt for a few days to get to know each other.. Then into the dt they go!