The Ecotech pump clones have arrived in Ali Express !!!

[Virus]

The ecotech pump clones have arrived
Ali Express

 

[scotty333]

Don’t say the gph

 

[VintageReefer]

Don’t say the gph

Bottom of pics 7-10
On the ali site

 

[Necrodaemus]

Don’t say the gph

They do. If you look on the photos, it shows liters per hour…just convert it to gph.

 

[scotty333]

God, can’t see without binoculars
What are they?

 

[Doctorgori]

Sometimes it’s hit or miss with these knockoffs .. as often the cost reduction is sometimes in hardware material quality like rusty screws et et

 

[VintageReefer]

God, can’t see without binoculars
What are they?

Dmp-10 1500-5000 LPH
dmp-20 2700-9000 LPH
Dmp-30 4500-15,000 LPH
Dmp40 6000-20,000 LPH

 

[scotty333]

Dmp-10 1500-5000 LPH
dmp-20 2700-9000 LPH
Dmp-30 4500-15,000 LPH
Dmp40 6000-20,000 LPH

I can’t use them anyway cos I got a corner tank flush with the walls but for my next build …. Yes I’d certainly try them

 

[Virus]

Dmp-10= 396 GPH-1320 GPH
Dmp-20 =713 GPH-2377 GPH
Dmp-30 1188 GPH-3962 GPH
Dmp40 1585 GPH-5283 GPH

 

[BeanAnimal]

Not a huge Ecotech fan, but aren't these still patent protected? IP theft and undercutting really is not good for any of us.

 

[VintageReefer]

Not a huge Ecotech fan, but aren't these still patent protected? IP theft and undercutting really is not good for any of us.

I believe they keep finding a way to renew/extend

 

[VintageReefer]

@BeanAnimal

Is the EcoTech VorTech worth it for the price?

yes they are absolutely worth it especially if you buy used. I can send waves 4 feet with my mp40 I bought 2 mp40 and a mp10 in 2012-2013. Bought all used. I use them daily and they run my reefs and are silent. I clean once a year

www.reef2reef.com

 

[BeanAnimal]

So shady... outright infringement and undercutting.

 

[Saltwater Depot]

I’ve read that there patent is up, so they have all right to clone products.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I’ve read that there patent is up, so they have all right to clone products.

The patents are nowhere near being "up" from what I can see and new variations appear to be meticulously applied for (new novel upgrades?). In the cases of the originals, through 2026 with new ones expiring 15 or so years form now. They appear to have numerous patents to cover this from many angles even if the "original" claims fall out of patent protection.

Like I said, I am not a huge Ecotech fan, but this appears to be infringement any way you slice it. Maybe a particular patent expired or there is a loophole, or (as is the case most of the time) just outright "sue us if you want, but we are in China".

Edit: I typed 2027 and 2029, but these are 20 year Patents... so 2037 and 2039 for some and I think the original art 2006 for these, so that the min, 2026....

 

[BeanAnimal]

So shady... outright infringement and undercutting.

I suppose it is insanely funny unless it is your company or job, or economy getting undercut...

 

[vetteguy53081]

These are gambles based on ability to obtain parts when needed, useful life and type of materials used for construction

 

[Malcontent]

I believe they keep finding a way to renew/extend

They're like the Disney of reefing hardware.

 

[areefer01]

Not a huge Ecotech fan, but aren't these still patent protected?

I believe so, yes. I'm not the holder obviously, but recall reading somewhere until 2026. Another source said it was later extended but these are both anecdotal as in I don't have a hard reference. Sorry.

Does aperture have access to legal to stop if so is the question. Maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

IP theft and undercutting really is not good for any of us.

It isn't. The other thing that is a bit concerning is that some are perfectly ok with it only because it lowers the entry price point. Some may argue it is innovation or that the original company should be innovating more.

 

[rtparty]

Not a huge Ecotech fan, but aren't these still patent protected? IP theft and undercutting really is not good for any of us.

China doesn’t care about patent infringement or IP theft.

Jecod’s original pump was a complete Tunze copy. They went under a different name back then.