Unethical, Wrong or Ok?

[Sump Crab]

Very interesting that you saw blue in my pic when I only had the white lights on.

I can see blue on the tips of your torch under your white lights. Why don't you post a pic of it under blues so we can actually compare it to the vendors photo?

Trying to strongarm a vendor by comparing their picture under blue light and your picture under white light is just unfair, perhaps "unethical, [or] wrong" as put into your words.

 

[DSC reef]

I definitely agree that a lot of coral vendors are shady as heck. It is super shady when they use camera filters and photoshop.

In this case, though, I think the coral was just pictured under blue light. I just dont see a coral being photographed under blues as shady.

To me it looks like a lot saturation. This is also a good representation of how others can perceive a picture by a vendor. They know what they are doing and that's why I believe there are shady tendencies with a lot of vendors. I also get tired of these well known vendors using the blue light excuse when corals look drastically different when recived.

 

[Sump Crab]

To me it looks like a lot saturation. This is also a good representation of how others can perceive a picture by a vendor. They know what they are doing and that's why I believe there are shady tendencies with a lot of vendors. I also get tired of these well known vendors using the blue light excuse when corals look drastically different when recived.

Like I said before, buying coral online almost always leads to disappointment IME. Its just hard to tell if the OPs complaints are valid if OP only posts a picture under whites rather than blues for a truer comparison.

 

[Jfarooqpak]

I can see blue on the tips of your torch under your white lights. Why don't you post a pic of it under blues so we can actually compare it to the vendors photo?

Trying to strongarm a vendor by comparing their picture under blue light and your picture under white light is just unfair, perhaps "unethical, [or] wrong" as put into your words.

Wow. What strongarming have I done? I am asking for help to see if this is the way it is or not since I am a newbie in this hobby.
The whole point of what I am questioning has been missed by you. The name says blue tips. It doesn’t say blue tips under lights. That is the part which has thrown me off.
Also note that I refused to mention the sellers name. This was done because of the reason that I don’t want to put in negativity regarding a seller as I don’t know enough And trying to learn.
your comment is aggressive, rude, ignorant and completely unwarranted.

 

[Jfarooqpak]

It is misleading but you will learn that vendors "exaggerate" to get a sale, most good vendors will say what light it is under.
As above, can you add more blue to your lighting?
What lights do you have?

Thank you for the response. I have a BioCube 32 with built in LED lights.

 

[najer]

Thank you for the response. I have a BioCube 32 with built in LED lights.

@Katrina71 do you have any ideas what this lighting is, is it adjustable?

 

[Jfarooqpak]

@Katrina71 do you have any ideas what this lighting is, is it adjustable?

I am going to call Coral Life, the makers, to see if maybe I can change out some of the white bulbs for blue ones.

 

[Katrina71]

I hate to play devil's advocate, but isn't the goal as a seller to get us to buy coral? I understand and respect the way they are advertised. Not really much different than airbrushing a supermodel in the Victoria's Secret Catalogue. I think as a consumer, we need to be scrutinizing. Ask for pics under white light if that would be more like your tank. A reputable seller will accommodate if possible.

 

[Katrina71]

@Katrina71 do you have any ideas what this lighting is, is it adjustable?

By looking, I'm guessing stock LED.

 

[najer]

I am going to call Coral Life, the makers, to see if maybe I can change out some of the white bulbs for blue ones.

I don't know this tank or lights, there are lots of spectrums in lights, not just what is pleasing to the eye, corals need certain spectrums, it might be worth looking at your lighting?

 

[Katrina71]

I am going to call Coral Life, the makers, to see if maybe I can change out some of the white bulbs for blue ones.

Buy Steve's LED! This is my son's tank. Totally customizable color!!

 

[TheOne]

It's called photoshop. Which would you rather spend your hard earned dollars on?

Just so you know that most corals will look much more vibrant and colorful under more blue lighting.

Being new to the hobby the best advice I can give you is to go to a store that sells corals and ask to see the corals under white lighting. That is the only way you are going to see the true color as even a computer monitors colors are off in most cases. If they refuse to do that then shop elsewhere.

 

[Waynerock]

So I just bought this from Corals.com and look at the rock it’s stark white. Tidal Gardens and unique corals do this as well. All there sales Picts are very white heavy light. It definitely does not look as good from a selling perspective (not as much pop) but I respect these sellers for this practice. When I get them home they look even better than on there site! Here is a blasto I got from UC, the first is there pict and the second blue one is mine. I have a habit of never trusting the photos that have the all black background as well you can’t really tell what kind of light they’re using

 

[Mandelstam]

Wow. What strongarming have I done? I am asking for help to see if this is the way it is or not since I am a newbie in this hobby.
The whole point of what I am questioning has been missed by you. The name says blue tips. It doesn’t say blue tips under lights. That is the part which has thrown me off.
Also note that I refused to mention the sellers name. This was done because of the reason that I don’t want to put in negativity regarding a seller as I don’t know enough And trying to learn.
your comment is aggressive, rude, ignorant and completely unwarranted.

Does an object have any color if it's not reflecting or emitting any light?

It gets its color by reflecting certain colors of the incoming spectra. In this case a lot of blue. But if you don't shine blue light on it it's not going to look blue. If you shine a light without any green in it on a leaf i'ts not going to look green. If your white light are lacking in the blue area it's not going to look blue. It's just plain physics even if its simplified.

My point is that you can't expect a coral to look the same under different lights.

 

[DSC reef]

Does an object have any color if it's not reflecting or emitting any light?

It gets its color by reflecting certain colors of the incoming spectra. In this case a lot of blue. But if you don't shine blue light on it it's not going to look blue. If you shine a light without any green in it on a leaf i'ts not going to look green. If your white light are lacking in the blue area it's not going to look blue. It's just plain physics even if its simplified.

My point is that you can't expect a coral to look the same under different lights.

Still doesn't change the fact that the pic was manipulated. It's a popular thing that vendors do unfortunately. There are some honest vendors out there.

 

[Mandelstam]

Still doesn't change the fact that the pic was manipulated. It's a popular thing that vendors do unfortunately. There are some honest vendors out there.

Yes, manipulating pictures is another thing and wrong. But taking a picture of a coral under it's most favorable light is not really wrong in my opinion.

 

[DSC reef]

Yes, manipulating pictures is another thing and wrong. But taking a picture of a coral under it's most favorable light is not really wrong in my opinion.

I agree, I've seen some coral look better in person than the photo I can take, lol.

 

[DancingShark]

I know it sucks. Growing pains. I went trough the same when I first started.

I took the time to show the difference lightning makes on my aussie gold torch.
It's a 3 minute video, YouTube is slow in converting to HD, sorry for the music in the background. Didn't think it was that loud.

 

[Jfarooqpak]

Does an object have any color if it's not reflecting or emitting any light?

It gets its color by reflecting certain colors of the incoming spectra. In this case a lot of blue. But if you don't shine blue light on it it's not going to look blue. If you shine a light without any green in it on a leaf i'ts not going to look green. If your white light are lacking in the blue area it's not going to look blue. It's just plain physics even if its simplified.

My point is that you can't expect a coral to look the same under different lights.

Thank you. Just to understand it better, then why are the tentacles showing up as green in all lights?

 

[Squeaky McMurdo]

I think the seller describing them as blue tips is accurate. I have some things that appear white under daylights, but glow green under my blues.