Warning: Use Vibrant at your own risk

Just manually remove it. Pop it and pull.

And if anyone here gasps at this just ask them to prove it releases spores. Because they can't. You will wait just as long as everyone here is waiting for the internal test results. Put on some Bob Marley or some Hendrix, reach in, and start clearing your bubble algae.
I do that when my arm is in the tank for something. The problem is, if I see, say, 15 bubbles, maybe 5 of them are in a spot I can actually get at and there's probably another dozen in places I can't even see them.

My urchin does a decent job of keeping them in check. They're not actually a problem, I just worry about coming home one day to find hundreds of them.
 
"Our supplier mislead us about the product" blah blah blah, bet on it
He already put those wheels in motion when he said
At this time, we have samples of Vibrant out to Labs for independent certified testing dating back to batches from 2016 to current to compare them to see if there have been any changes in the production of Vibrant.

We are hoping to have these results back by the end of this week and we will post everything that we have.

Wouldn't they know what's in their own product? If they, for whatever reason, don't know what's in their own product, why have they gone at least 6 years without ever testing it? This statement perfectly set the stage to say "on or around [date], [someone] changed [something] without notifying us. We were unaware that we had been adding algaecide instead of bacteria to our popular product Vibrant. We are in the process of rectifying the problem and expect to have new suppliers lined up shortly, we're adding an in-house lab to test the quality of everything we make and the new bottles should hit the shelves by the end of May. If you have a bottle of Vibrant, please hold on to it and you'll be able to exchange it for a new one after it's in stores".

Also, the "end of this week" was like three weeks ago.
 
I have not done any research into this but I would presume as a general good practice that the same facility that cultivates bacteria as a revenue stream would not produce a commercial algaecide within the same walls simply as a hedge against risk to their other assets in the building. The "oops" factor simply does not hold water. But that's just my opinion. Imagine what someone who actually worked in one of these environments and did this for a living would say...
 
He already put those wheels in motion when he said


Wouldn't they know what's in their own product? If they, for whatever reason, don't know what's in their own product, why have they gone at least 6 years without ever testing it? This statement perfectly set the stage to say "on or around [date], [someone] changed [something] without notifying us. We were unaware that we had been adding algaecide instead of bacteria to our popular product Vibrant. We are in the process of rectifying the problem and expect to have new suppliers lined up shortly, we're adding an in-house lab to test the quality of everything we make and the new bottles should hit the shelves by the end of May. If you have a bottle of Vibrant, please hold on to it and you'll be able to exchange it for a new one after it's in stores".

Also, the "end of this week" was like three weeks ago.
I fully suspect this will be the result. They will then mix in some organic and make it impossible to do an NMR on future product.
 
I do that when my arm is in the tank for something. The problem is, if I see, say, 15 bubbles, maybe 5 of them are in a spot I can actually get at and there's probably another dozen in places I can't even see them.

My urchin does a decent job of keeping them in check. They're not actually a problem, I just worry about coming home one day to find hundreds of them.
I have a 40 gallon, so I have the same problem with bubble algae. I have a emerald crab, but it can't keep up or doesn't like it.

I just manually remove it. Break it loose with the pumps off then turn pumps on and catch with a net. What doesn’t break off gets popped. As far as build up, it will take some time. Shouldn't just happen overnight. My tank gets a lot of it.

Bringing it back to Vibrant, a month or so ago I inquired to a well known and respected aquaculture facility if they had any fish that could possibly go in my tank to deal with the bubble algae. The answer was no, as I suspected. But they did mention to me that they had success with using Vibrant in thier tanks. My point of mentioning this is that the most knowledgeable in the industry also trusted this stuff, not just the unsuspecting hobbyists as myself.
 
Just making this bigger for all of the people around that need it... like me....
Not to veer off toping but it kind of relates. About 2 years ago I had bubble algae and my LFS who I trust told me to triple dose fluconazole. The results were that the bubble algae began to turn pearly and die off with no negative side effect to my tank inhabitants. That included acros, lps, inverts, and a medium large maxima clam. I was also doing and icp test during this time and find no worry some traces to be concerned about except dangerously high iodine which was my fault as I was dosing a cap of iodine in my top of water for over a year and not checking. Sadly like someone pointed out fluconazole is not available in many countries so it would not be an end all for everyone. Here is the latest video I saw the other day of someone doing 4x the dose on sps dominant system with no ill effects.


So to stay on topic. At least in the USA there was always a better option than using Vibrant and could have been spread more widely had we known what was in Vibrant more accurately. I refused to use vibrant hence why I took the risk and used 3x fluc dose. The reports of vibrant causing issues were there from almost the beginning. I dont see them responding today or possibly ever. I hope they do to clarify but have seen this kind of situation way too many times. Its like people get busted doing what they are not suppose to and a psychological switch triggers in there head that if they lay low, it will all just go away.
 
Not to veer off toping but it kind of relates. About 2 years ago I had bubble algae and my LFS who I trust told me to triple dose fluconazole. The results were that the bubble algae began to turn pearly and die off with no negative side effect to my tank inhabitants. That included acros, lps, inverts, and a medium large maxima clam. I was also doing and icp test during this time and find no worry some traces to be concerned about except dangerously high iodine which was my fault as I was dosing a cap of iodine in my top of water for over a year and not checking. Sadly like someone pointed out fluconazole is not available in many countries so it would not be an end all for everyone. Here is the latest video I saw the other day of someone doing 4x the dose on sps dominant system with no ill effects.


So to stay on topic. At least in the USA there was always a better option than using Vibrant and could have been spread more widely had we known what was in Vibrant more accurately. I refused to use vibrant hence why I took the risk and used 3x fluc dose. The reports of vibrant causing issues were there from almost the beginning. I dont see them responding today or possibly ever. I hope they do to clarify but have seen this kind of situation way too many times. Its like people get busted doing what they are not suppose to and a psychological switch triggers in there head that if they lay low, it will all just go away.
So... not to veer off topic... just poking fun... I am sure we could all point to a reefing product that lead us astray. Either lack of information or lack of dosing directions, what ever it may be, we have all been there. I have personally dosed Fluconazole products from two different popular brands that are selling the stuff. I wouldn't dose it a three times the recommended amount but let's set that aside. I dosed the first time and fell in love, results as advertised, a few years later I dosed again, results as advertised. This is fantastic. A few years later I dose again and devastation, I lose half of my livestock. This is not a story, this actually happened.

Ok so what happened? My tank didn't change size, so my dose was consistent. Flow, lighting, aeration, all the same.

I dont know. But at least I knew that I was putting Fluconazole into my reef tank when I was doing it.

Will I do it again? NO. Am I upset with the product? NO.

Sorry if this is TLTR.
 
I do that when my arm is in the tank for something. The problem is, if I see, say, 15 bubbles, maybe 5 of them are in a spot I can actually get at and there's probably another dozen in places I can't even see them.

My urchin does a decent job of keeping them in check. They're not actually a problem, I just worry about coming home one day to find hundreds of them.

You are doing great then! It may just be me but I actually always found it a pretty algae. In moderation of course.

Hope you are having an amazing day!
 
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So... not to veer off topic... just poking fun... I am sure we could all point to a reefing product that lead us astray. Either lack of information or lack of dosing directions, what ever it may be, we have all been there. I have personally dosed Fluconazole products from two different popular brands that are selling the stuff. I wouldn't dose it a three times the recommended amount but let's set that aside. I dosed the first time and fell in love, results as advertised, a few years later I dosed again, results as advertised. This is fantastic. A few years later I dose again and devastation, I lose half of my livestock. This is not a story, this actually happened.

Ok so what happened? My tank didn't change size, so my dose was consistent. Flow, lighting, aeration, all the same.

I dont know. But at least I knew that I was putting Fluconazole into my reef tank when I was doing it.

Will I do it again? NO. Am I upset with the product? NO.

Sorry if this is TLTR.
Good to know. Next time I come around to using it I will dig deeper. The guy in the vid definitely laid it on THICCC lol. A little too much for comfort. I imagine if he did 4x dose of vibrant it would have been a different story for him.
 
I hate when when we make their excuses for them.
Same here and normally I'd keep my mouth shut, but I figure after a month, multiple threads and thousands of posts they already know exactly what they need to say to mitigate as much fallout as possible. We've told them which 'answers' will tick people off more, which answers are most likely to put fears to rest and everything in between. We've put together a nice focus group for them to gauge reactions with.
 
You are doing great then! It may just be me but I actually always found it a pretty algae. In moderation of course.
I'm not terribly worried. I don't mind a few bubbles just like I don't mind some hair algae flowing in the current. I just don't want it to take over.
If my urchin wasn't shaped like a golf ball, I'm sure it would dig the rest of it out of the cracks.
 
Correct. It might be against the law, just like putting a fluorescent or metal halide light bulb in the trash is against the law.
I'm glad you brought up bulbs Randy. I've become a hoarder of dead bulbs because I still have to find out where I can dispose of them safely given they aren't supposed to go in the trash. Hopefully my comment has broken up the stream of consciousness as to whether putting anything toxic down the drain is OK. ;-)
 
I'm glad you brought up bulbs Randy. I've become a hoarder of dead bulbs because I still have to find out where I can dispose of them safely given they aren't supposed to go in the trash. Hopefully my comment has broken up the stream of consciousness as to whether putting anything toxic down the drain is OK. ;-)
Lol a new "stream" was started in a new thread by someone that can't let that go. Anyway, my county as well as others should have a hazmat area where you can drop of literally anything, esp bulbs, paints and chemicals for free. You can check your areas trash/recycling center page.
 
Lol a new "stream" was started in a new thread by someone that can't let that go. Anyway, my county as well as others should have a hazmat area where you can drop of literally anything, esp bulbs, paints and chemicals for free. You can check your areas trash/recycling center page.
I totally agree about a hazmat area for stuff like that. Actually what I would also like to see is a separate bin for our homes that get collected by the city just like trash, etc. and it gets put in a hazmat area to be dealt with Make it easy for people which will help keep this stuff out of the trash. Although I don't know how some of this stuff can be dealt with. We've created a monster with a lot of the stuff we use. I definitely have to search my city's site for where the disposal area is. Having said that it's probably way out in no man's land like a lot of the other disposal areas . Aaargh!

A new thread has been started about the nuances and fine line of dumping poisons down the drain? Oh good grief (slap palm on forehead... need an emoticon for that). LOL
 

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