We all hate them, Dinos! I have a cure...

[ali.farzinrad]

I have noticed lately a bunch of people dealing with Dino. It's one of the worst things we have to deal with in this hobby and will make you want to pull your hair out! So, I thought I would share my method on how I beat Dino. It may work for you, it may not but when we have Dino and we are watching our corals and snail die away, we will give anything a try right?We all know how many different strands of Dino there are but I have been real successful with this process. Also I have tryed H2O2 dosing with no success in that treatment.

Here is the process that I have used to get rid of Dino in 2 different tanks, also my LFS had it in there display tanks (full sps) and used this process as well with the same results, NO MORE DINO! Never has come back either! Here we go:

Black out for 3 days, I'm mean no light at all, do not feed your fish either, they will be ok.
Day 1: dose Dr. Tim's waste away (recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 2: dose Dr. Tim's waste away (recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 3: dose Dr. Tim's re-fresh
( recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 4: uncover, clean protein skimmer and all filtration. Return to normal light schedule.

This process worked for me with great results, I hope it will help and work for you!

This is a great method but one big big big problem
We don't have Dr Tim's waste in my country, nobody knows the brand...
We have
Seachem
API
Blue life
ReefLowers
Aquaforest
Brightwell
Kent
What should I do if my tank infected????
Any other cure?

 

[ali.farzinrad]

What is the treatment?

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?posts/2978712

 

[FF337]

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?posts/2978712

I was confused since the thread starter was someone else.

 

[twilliard]

I am reluctant to say the treatment process until I am conclusive on the outcome.
What I will say is this will work on a cellular level.
Seachem makes what I am using

 

[ali.farzinrad]

I am reluctant to say the treatment process until I am conclusive on the outcome.
What I will say is this will work on a cellular level.
Seachem makes what I am using

Which Seachem product you're using??

 

[twilliard]

Here is the cell structure after 6 days
Noticeable cell irregularities



Medication was removed at day 3

 

[twilliard]

Which Seachem product you're using??

I am not using seachem but what I am using is exactly the same

http://www.bigalspets.com/metroplex...tyY3pYWCtz33SGFQKyCTupHz9S3sOq1sscBoCZFrw_wcB

 

[twilliard]

It does not mix well with h2o this is a 250mg dose on the stir plate

 

[mr11]

I am reluctant to say the treatment process until I am conclusive on the outcome.
What I will say is this will work on a cellular level.
Seachem makes what I am using

From that I'd have to guess metronidazole. It's the only antiprotazoal medication they offer. And it acts directly to impair nucleic acid synthesis

 

[twilliard]

From that I'd have to guess metronidazole. It's the only antiprotazoal medication they offer. And it acts directly to impair nucleic acid synthesis

You are correct!

 

[FF337]

Sulfaplex is labeled for protozoas as well.

 

[mr11]

Sulfaplex is labeled for protozoas as well.

True. But the active ingredient is sulfathiazole which is an antibiotic. It's a sulfa drug so if I remember right it interferes with folate synthesis which is critical to bacterial growth. It's at least not used as an antiprotozoan medication in humans.

 

[FF337]

I don't know anything about it other than seachem has it labeled for protozoas

 

[twilliard]

True. But the active ingredient is sulfathiazole which is an antibiotic. It's a sulfa drug so if I remember right it interferes with folate synthesis which is critical to bacterial growth. It's at least not used as an antiprotozoan medication in humans.

I think we are on the same page or think alike.
Do you study on a Mico biology scale?

 

[FL_Reefer]

Indeed!
I have a bet with myself that I can wipe out dinoflagellates in 7 days from any tank never to come back unless reintroduced

I see your 7 days and raise you 4 days, lol 3 days!

 

[twilliard]

I see your 7 days and raise you 4 days, lol 3 days!

Nice!
The likelihood of them returning is substantial if not taken out down to the level of DNA
I will call your 4 and raise you 20 lol (did I get that right?)

 

[Russ265]

True. But the active ingredient is sulfathiazole which is an antibiotic. It's a sulfa drug so if I remember right it interferes with folate synthesis which is critical to bacterial growth. It's at least not used as an antiprotozoan medication in humans.

Metronidazole is an antibiotic as well...

 

[Russ265]

I have noticed lately a bunch of people dealing with Dino. It's one of the worst things we have to deal with in this hobby and will make you want to pull your hair out! So, I thought I would share my method on how I beat Dino. It may work for you, it may not but when we have Dino and we are watching our corals and snail die away, we will give anything a try right?We all know how many different strands of Dino there are but I have been real successful with this process. Also I have tryed H2O2 dosing with no success in that treatment.

Here is the process that I have used to get rid of Dino in 2 different tanks, also my LFS had it in there display tanks (full sps) and used this process as well with the same results, NO MORE DINO! Never has come back either! Here we go:

Black out for 3 days, I'm mean no light at all, do not feed your fish either, they will be ok.
Day 1: dose Dr. Tim's waste away (recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 2: dose Dr. Tim's waste away (recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 3: dose Dr. Tim's re-fresh
( recommended dose on the bottle)
Day 4: uncover, clean protein skimmer and all filtration. Return to normal light schedule.

This process worked for me with great results, I hope it will help and work for you!

i purchased dr tims waste away. i will stop dosing peroxide and using uv during the trial period.

now keep in mind... i have them beat back to oblivion. they only show up as small micron bubbles if i stop dosing for a day.

if that fails... i will guinea pig metroplex

 

[twilliard]

i purchased dr tims waste away. i will stop dosing peroxide and using uv during the trial period.

now keep in mind... i have them beat back to oblivion. they only show up as small micron bubbles if i stop dosing for a day.

Well Russ what if you had a method in place for them to never return?
I would think if you can stop the reproduction of the individual cells then it's a case closed situation.
For instance..
A blackout what does this do to the cell specifically? Not able to create the simple sugars from Photosynthesis for cell survival?
What is we are dealing with let's say 500k cells. How many of those would actually die and how many would live from consuming plankton?

This has been a great venture for me and I will show that the best way to deal with these protozoans is on the DNA level.

 

[mr11]

Metronidazole is an antibiotic as well...

Yeah but it's also used as an anti protazoal like in giardia infection for example. Plus it attacks at the level of dna synthesis which is common to Protozoa and bacteria. Sulfa drugs attack at a mechanism specific to bacteria so they have no effect of Protozoa. I'm a med student so my knowledge of pharm and micro is limited to human based diseases but that's at least how I understand it. And sulfa drugs aren't used to treat Protozoa clinically. Metro is