6k Setup and Still Issues...

[MrTang13]

Most likely because you and anyone else is leaving the house during the day, reducing CO2 in the air, which raises the pH.

Great idea, but not the case. My girlfriend has been sick and her and I have been pretty much both bunkered in throughout the blackout.

If anything, I’d expect it to rise at night assuming that our respiration slows while we sleep. It was peaking around 3 PM.

 

[MrTang13]

Also update:

Lights are now back on with a reduced photoperiod, 20k copepods dosed, phytoplankton dosed, microbacter 7 dosed, and DOS is now raising PH slowly.

So far, no signs at all of dinos. What I do see and have seen since very early stages of my tank are a white string that latched on to each MP 40. I’ll try to get a picture of it tonight.

Fingers crossed. If I do see them, how soon would they reappear?

First sight and Dino X is going in the tank >

 

[hockeyhead019]

Curious to see how this one shakes out... following along

Good luck @OP!

 

[MrTang13]

I found this to be rather light reading and somewhat brief.

English is not my first language. Perhaps you can tell me what the key takeaway is then?

I do not see anything that supports the claim that Dino’s are triggered from low nutrient environments.

 

[MrTang13]

Update: https://imgur.com/a/LlqHrnF

Upon close inspection I do see slight algae that look like dinos.

I’m going to nuke them tonight with Dino X.

Lame part is I have to disable DOS to medication runs it’s course.

 

[stacksoner]

Update: https://imgur.com/a/LlqHrnF

Upon close inspection I do see slight algae that look like dinos.

I’m going to nuke them tonight with Dino X.

Lame part is I have to disable DOS to medication runs it’s course.

 

[Tuan’s Reef]

I went thru a similar stage . New tank . Low nutrients as I was sparingly feed unless spot feeding the corals. I had what look likes Dino’s . I siphoned it and it would be right back the next day. Rolls up like snot at night just like the OP. Added a 9w uv on a 20g nuvo 20 and it receded. I also reduced my photo period a bit as well.

Got a bottle of Dino x but have not dosed anything . Going to ride mine out as naturally as I can. I think I am winning as I can see coraline algae and micro fauna growing in my tank.

 

[MrTang13]

I went thru a similar stage . New tank . Low nutrients as I was sparingly feed unless spot feeding the corals. I had what look likes Dino’s . I siphoned it and it would be right back the next day. Rolls up like snot at night just like the OP. Added a 9w uv on a 20g nuvo 20 and it receded. I also reduced my photo period a bit as well.

Got a bottle of Dino x but have not dosed anything . Going to ride mine out as naturally as I can. I think I am winning as I can see coraline algae and micro fauna growing in my tank.

I have coralline algae growing with my dinos as well for what that’s worth. To be honest, after the blackout and all the dosing, the regen was definitely slowed. But none the less, the dinos still slowly are coming back.

I’m thinking it’s best to dose the Dino x now to avoid needing another blackout. I really, really wanted to avoid that but it is what it is.

 

[dugthefish]

Following, good luck

 

[MrTang13]

Update: So after dosing the Dino X I see the Dinos back, but much less coverage than I saw the prior day.

Now there is just slight coverage on the sand.

Tomorrow I will do another treatment.

If this doesn’t work, I’m going to explore a UV sterilizer.

Hoping to avoid another $400 expense if possible....

 

[Hella_Reef]

I would black out for another 3 days, and make sure to not do any water changes until they're completely gone.

 

[Saveafish]

Stop stop stop. @MrTang13 please stop. Your tank is 3 month old. With every thing you been adding it hasn't had time to settle in and adjust. It might as well be day one today. Keep your hands of out of a couple weeks. Cut back on feeding and let it adjust to your daily changing and adding things. Let it mature and go through the ugly stages. Do a weekly water change and let it equalize on its own. Every time you add some thing to it. It takes weeks and months to equal out from that. Slow down way down. If you think your going too slow. Than slow down more.

 

[stacksoner]

Be cool my homie!!

Watching you in this thread reminds me of this amazing scene from one of my favorite movies - Swingers.

 

[Hella_Reef]

Stop stop stop. @MrTang13 please stop. Your tank is 3 month old. With every thing you been adding it hasn't had time to settle in and adjust. It might as well be day one today. Keep your hands of out of a couple weeks. Cut back on feeding and let it adjust to your daily changing and adding things. Let it mature and go through the ugly stages. Do a weekly water change and let it equalize on its own. Every time you add some thing to it. It takes weeks and months to equal out from that. Slow down way down. If you think your going too slow. Than slow down more.

The tank is only 3 months old? Well if thats the case do exactly what he just said. Put down the chemicals and step away from the tank lol. A tank can take up to year before being fully settled in. At this stage of ur system ur more than likely getting a diatom bloom. Ur tank is finding its balancing act, which takes time. And that involves ugly stages.Slow ur role and do what saveafish has said.

 

[Dhoggs]

No no no dont stop..there are still lots of products out there produced/manufactured by different companies which base on their product description, eliminates dinos. Please dont forget to share with us once you find one that works as advertised. Good luck! [emoji106]

 

[dugthefish]

Its interesting, and frustrating, to me, these dinos. Not only is there no single recipe for success, apparently there's not even a consensus on whether or not to treat them proactively!

No disrespect to any posters, just seems many advocate immediate, aggressive treatment before all hope is gone. And others, perhaps myself included, opting for a more laissez faire approach of letting nature, perhaps with a nudge here or there, run its course.

Just interesting....

 

[Dhoggs]

I am skeptical that there is a product out there which could completely eradicate dinos in a tank completely (if thats what the OP actually have..OP seems to be convinced that it is dinos) but I have been wrong in the past (a lot of times). I personally will not dose any chemicals to my tank unless I decide to switch back to dosing 2 part. I am lazy in general and I prefer the “hands off” way of reefing and let time take its course. Hands off to the point that I automated most of the maintenance needed for the tank which caused a mini crash last year due to equipment failure. Lesson learned on my part.

Going back to the topic at hand.....It seems that the OP has the means and the guts to try different solutions to the issues he is having on his “young” tank so he might be able to once and for all find a way to eradicate dinos which will benefit all of us. [emoji6]

 

[brandon429]

Question

Why is it everyone with the answers here isn't posting in the giant dinos thread curing tanks

Don't get angry at the question but isn't that really the only true meter

Thread where five hundred people ask for help daily, five posters run it.

Thread where one poster wants help, several completely opposing options for pages...

Dinos are obligate hitchhikers. Common associates with new tanks are cyano and gha, not invasive strain dinos

Where you source from gets you dinos and not any other cause.

The potential to take over regardless of advice exists when they hitchhike in, not when the tank is new or old. Never limit interception to a certain age of your tank, you're either dealing with an invader where a very restricted group can control it or not.

 

[MrTang13]

Update:

Day 3 of lights being back on. The prior two days I ran a full light cycle of two days at 50% intensity. Today I’m going to run a 4 hour cycle as instructed by Dino X.

I’m excited to hit the Dino with the second dose. I can barely see them in my tank at all and I’m hoping the next dose will make them visually undetectable.

I’m going to hit them with 3 more doses regardless as I ramp up lights.

Ironically, my zoa frags and corals look great. My nitrates have elevated to 10 PPM and my phosphates are now .25.

What is a healthy range for phosphates?

 

[MrTang13]

Update: I flipped off the lights and dosed Dino X for the second time, as I saw the dinos clearly gaining strength on the sandbed.

15 minutes later and all the Dinos are totally gone. I doubt that’s a consequence of the lights being off.

Side Note: here is my sump now. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I could get the pentair 25 watt in this thing while still keeping it neat and organized?

https://imgur.com/a/WAaLRWT