Another STUPID Cyano Thread

This def has me intrigued ...
I had the exact same problem you were having I had 0 p04 0 n03 0 ammonia yet slime alge was like a plague over my tank. And one of the reasons I've heard is that there's no phosphate in the water but it's actually locked up in the slime alge which is why your test comes out as 0. And the only way I managed to get rid of it was boyd chemiclean
 
I had the exact same problem you were having I had 0 p04 0 n03 0 ammonia yet slime alge was like a plague over my tank. And one of the reasons I've heard is that there's no phosphate in the water but it's actually locked up in the slime alge which is why your test comes out as 0. And the only way I managed to get rid of it was boyd chemiclean
Interesting .. Yah I am fascinated by this and am all ears on this and eager to learn about this in depth during this thread
 
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@brandon429 here you go
 
yep here's the breakdown going on in that tank physically, regardless of your treatment options which are many this is surely whats going down and its not that hard to fix:
 
yep here's the breakdown going on in that tank physically, regardless of your treatment options which are many this is surely whats going down and its not that hard to fix:
Did you post what I should do and it is just not showing up ...? Seems the directions on what to do never showed ... :) Or you got busy .. :)
 
at work got sdtrcked back on

the coverage on the rocks is preventing them from expressing pent up waste. All live rocks produce it; set the cleanest purplest most knurly quality live rock you can buy/order into a white paint bucket of sw, you get detritus every day as long as that rock exists

live rock expresses waste and we don't account for that in lots of todays tank reworks.

If you choose to topically kill that cyano, which many actions sure can, then you get the same pore blocking cuz its not being removed, but now with a layer topcoat of dying organism to pack more into the pores

the opposite is hand access
storm zone simulation, puts back open, expressing pores. you increase your surface area vastly by cleaning out this tank vs medicating it...currently the pores have coverage from normal matted invaders we expect to see on the reef...

theres nothing wrong with your major params or your corals w be suffering

during your planned move, its ideal to reference some tanks from that work thread and see how deep they cleaned/we dislodged crud from every pore. oxygenating flow comes back into the rocks, health, self regulation begins since they can exchange w the tank now vs just sink and plug

Your reef is simply modeling a zone you'd rather have it model a more active fringing zone in look, so, we've got to flush it out if you want to speed up recovery

Standard kill/die/absorb in tank/slowly exported as detritus by manual filtration does work, but it takes time, and we compensate for the rush by doubling up on dosers...coral kill

we killed none in that thread :)

its highly ironic that total surgery, done right, is the safest thing for your corals and the most natural actually. have you seen the active ingredient in marine algaefix its 27 letters long. people rage over that stuff, but they pack in waste, then make another purchase to offset the detritus that came from the dying algae in their waste cloud setups.

our tanks don't get the correct flushing nature provides so they turn into plant lagoons or moneran trap areas of +organic loading unless we shake things up so to speak, at the right time.
 
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at work got sdtrcked back on

the coverage on the rocks is preventing them from expressing pent up waste. All live rocks produce it; set the cleanest purplest most knurly quality live rock you can buy/order into a white paint bucket of sw, you get detritus every day as long as that rock exists

live rock expresses waste and we don't account for that in lots of todays tank reworks.
Ie,
If you choose to topically kill that cyano, which many actions sure can, then you get the same pore blocking cuz its not being removed, but now with a layer topcoat of dying organism to pack more into the pores

the opposite is hand access
storm zone simulation, puts back open, expressing pores. you increase your surface area vastly by cleaning out this tank vs medicating it...currently the pores have coverage from normal matted invaders we expect to see on the reef...

theres nothing wrong with your major params or your corals w be suffering
Ok, so to start ... my corals are starting to have some bleaching at the tips .. so my swings would be causing this. Not the cyno?

Also .. if I am following ... the medicating the tank (example, chemiclean) will work, but I stand a better chance to just clean the tank? (sand, rocks, the works ... etc)

Am I following>?

(and thanks a ton for this info .. massive help) .. look forward to reply on this :)
 
@brandon429 also would you suggest, as again I am getting ready to just go down to a frag tank for the next few months, that I take all the sand (or a very good amount of it) out of this current tank for the time remaining that I have it up?
 
Hey All

Trying to figure out why all of a sudden I am having a nasty red slime / cyano outbreak.

125 gal tank (145 total in system)
1 tang, 2 clowns, filefish, 2 chromis, 2 other smaller fish
primarily sps dominant
No chaeto in sump
Water changes @10-15% every 2 weeks
P04 - 0.02
Na3 - 0.25

** Cyano comes back strong even 4 to 5 days after the water change!

Had a power outage that caused some issues in my tank during a time I was away. Caused some issues and ever since then (this was about 2 months ago)
I have been trying to get things back on track

My alk has been swinging as I have been trying to reel my numbers back in and keep them stable. So right now I am trying to get alk consistent and back to 8.0. It was there and steady and tank looked great. For the last month it has been bouncing all over and that is causing my corals to look stressed and some bleaching to even occur -- although not sure if this is because the alk or cyano/slime?

Anyways, all I feed is a pinch is some new life spectrum food for the fish once a day, and I do not over feed. I used to have chaeto in the sump, BUT took it out about 6 to 7 months ago, as my system turned into ULNS and the sps were not doing well. Once I took the chaeto out (got the p04 and nitrate up a bit) and just did the nutrieint export with the water changes every 2 weeks ... the tank thrived.

But not sure why it is breaking out like this now ..? Could not running the light and the fuge down below all of a sudden have something to do with it? Is it the # swings that may cause it?

Looking for anything here to help...
This happened to me after a power failure as well - I wondered if it had something to do with the temperature of the water - or other organics/inorganics released from a couple dying coral. I decided to remove and frag any pieces of 'dying or bleaching' coral - I also used a python - and siphoned the cyano up every other day for 2-3 days - and only changed a small amount of water (i.e whatever I removed).

Once the tank stabilized again - it left just as quickly as it came. I guess it took about 3 weeks.
 
I had the exact same problem you were having I had 0 p04 0 n03 0 ammonia yet slime alge was like a plague over my tank. And one of the reasons I've heard is that there's no phosphate in the water but it's actually locked up in the slime alge which is why your test comes out as 0. And the only way I managed to get rid of it was boyd chemiclean

I have used this as well - and it works very well with no apparent ill effects
 
Ok, so to start ... my corals are starting to have some bleaching at the tips .. so my swings would be causing this. Not the cyno?

Also .. if I am following ... the medicating the tank (example, chemiclean) will work, but I stand a better chance to just clean the tank? (sand, rocks, the works ... etc)

Am I following>?

(and thanks a ton for this info .. massive help) .. look forward to reply on this :)
Just clean it sounds like a good idea but in my experience I did countless deep cleans and it always came back imo chemiclean is the best and has no harmful effects as long as you have good oxygenation
 

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