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GlassMunky
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dang i was hoping for like a one should be 1/8" shorter or something like thatTrial, error and staying up way too late swearing to myself all the way...
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
Looks like I'm late to the party here lol so to me it looks like you should lose both of the street elbows on the primary and make sure the top of the secondary is setup similar to what @W1ngz posted with his own setup. It will take some playing with the valve on the full siphon to get the flow just right.
I feel like the position of the bulkheads on the overflow box makes this setup a little more tricky than usual
I feel like the position of the bulkheads on the overflow box makes this setup a little more tricky than usual
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GlassMunky
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Yea they are all pretty close together and being 1.5” makes it so there’s not much room to work on things in there and have stuff fit.
And then the box has a brace across the middle so whatever goes there has be short enough to fit below that but be tall enough to still give room for the full siphon drain.
Could I use just a 45 on top on the secondary instead of the U? It might give me a little more room but I’m not sure
I’m gonna try playing with it a little more later, gotta go to our nephews graduation party.
W1ngz
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Having the secondary open to air via a 45 will make noise. I don't think you need to touch the secondary or emergency, your videos show that they do exactly what they need to do when the primary isn't working. They make noise and they take the entire flow, keeping things safe and letting you know there's a problem.
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Playing around with it a bit more I’ve been able to get it to start up and get to a correct drain now by removing the u on the main drain. But I’m having a real hard time tubing it to run silent.
Or at least as quiet as I can get it.
Another thing I’m noticing is that there’s a lot of noise coming from the filter dock area in the sump
Or at least as quiet as I can get it.
Another thing I’m noticing is that there’s a lot of noise coming from the filter dock area in the sump
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would a slower flow rate help with the noise from the sump or is that going to be there regardless because of how the filter sock area has that drop?
could i fill the filter sock with something like filter floss to help stop the noise?
could i fill the filter sock with something like filter floss to help stop the noise?
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
A slower flow well help but I don't think it will entirely eliminate the noise due to the drop inside the filter socks as you mentioned. I might have missed it in your thread but who makes the sump? It's possible to have some custom acrylic lids made for each sock holder. You put these on top of the socks and they have numerous holes drilled in them for the water to flow through. The filter floss would definitely work as well and might be a slightly cheaper option.
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
Because you are using a 1 inch main siphon you could buy a bushing and reduce the secondary drain inside your overflow box to 1 inch as well. This would give you the opportunity to raise the secondary U inside the overflow box as high as possible. Once adjusted this will increase the water height inside the box and greatly reduce the noise coming from between the interior and exterior overflow boxes.
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Its a trigger brand tideline model sump. If you have a link to what youre talking about id be interested to see cause i kind of have an idea what you mean but want to be sure.
I tried slowing the flow rate some and it seems to have helped the noise in the sump some, but im still gettoing a fair bit of noise from the drains themselves. i still hear what sounds like bubbles going through the siphon drain but i dont see any vortex in the drain box or anything so im not sure whats up. i also think some of the noise might be because i have that 90 in the drain line
but i couldnt figure out how to get everything to fit without it.... anyways heres a video of how it currently sounds slowed down
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
Here's a picture of what I'm talking about, these covers come standard on Geo's Reefs sumps but I'm sure you could contact a custom acrylic manufacturer like octo aquatics and have some made up.
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GlassMunky
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you can remove the whole front area where the teeth are and the top comes with that, but if you do that the tank water level drops by about an inch.....
Im starting to feel like i just cant win with this
Im starting to feel like i just cant win with this
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
you can remove the whole front area where the teeth are and the top comes with that, but if you do that the tank water level drops by about an inch.....
Im starting to feel like i just cant win with this
Don't give up! To be honest, I've heard MUCH MUCH louder overflows than that. Do you have any extremely corse filter media? Similar to the filters that come with the danner pumps?
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GlassMunky
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My husband is saying the same thing. That it’s not that loud, and we’ve had louder tanks. Which is true; but just after spending so much time and money I was really trying to get the tank to be “great” not just ok.
It’s right in the middle of our whole house and is the center feature so I really want everything to be top notch
It’s right in the middle of our whole house and is the center feature so I really want everything to be top notch
W1ngz
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Raise the level in the outer box to reduce the distance the water is falling in the tank side of the overflow. You can probably do that just by backing the fittings off the pipe that is seated in the bulkhead for the secondary drain.
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Ive got the secondary and the emergency literally as high as is allowed by the box right now to the point where the lid JUST barely closes because it wants to sit on the elbow in the secondary. so i cant make it any higher.
unfortunately i ind of think this is just as good as its going to be able to get
cause if i cant adjust the height in the outer box anymore i dunno how i could affect the flow rate into the front box any other than slowing the flow rate of the whole tank even more. and right now ive already got the pump backed off to less than 50%
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unfortunately i ind of think this is just as good as its going to be able to get
cause if i cant adjust the height in the outer box anymore i dunno how i could affect the flow rate into the front box any other than slowing the flow rate of the whole tank even more. and right now ive already got the pump backed off to less than 50%
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W1ngz
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I had to play with the flow rate a little on mine, turns out the quietest is the fastest. Just the way mine works.
For the cascading into the filter socks, there are filter sock silencers. https://reefbuilders.com/2014/12/23/filter-sock-silencer-royal-exclusiv/
For the cascading into the filter socks, there are filter sock silencers. https://reefbuilders.com/2014/12/23/filter-sock-silencer-royal-exclusiv/
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No matter what I do with playing with this thing I can’t get it to quiet down.
Most of the noise is coming from the front box inside the tank where the water drains into the box, like a small waterfall. And I’m not sure that it can really be fixed with how the box is built the more I look at it....
Most of the noise is coming from the front box inside the tank where the water drains into the box, like a small waterfall. And I’m not sure that it can really be fixed with how the box is built the more I look at it....
