bumblebee grouper reef safe

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The size and weight given for the record is the record for caught with a hook and line, and that can be verified that is was captured by that method, not that that is the largest ever caught.

And although it sounds good to make the comparison of an 8' man, that is just not how variance in length works in wild populations of animals. Top sizes are actually quite consistent in wild populations. It is just difficult to get a rrue 'top size' on a fish as long lived as this species of grouper, simply because it takes awhile for them to reach top size and they can be caught or eaten by a predator before reching top size. However, that being said they are consistently caught at 7'+, and they grow fast and reach 6' quickly.

Caught consent at 7+ ft is a strech. Around 7ft, maybe a little more will be max size. I will not believe there is a 9+ft grouper unless I see a picture or a reliable scientific paper states that they have actually measured a 9ft fish.

7ft or 9ft it is still a large fish which will need a large home, eat alot of food and have a large impact on water quality.
 
Caught consent at 7+ ft is a strech. Around 7ft, maybe a little more will be max size. I will not believe there is a 9+ft grouper unless I see a picture or a reliable scientific paper states that they have actually measured a 9ft fish.

7ft or 9ft it is still a large fish which will need a large home, eat alot of food and have a large impact on water quality.
This has to be a joke. Can you tell everyone that we've been punk'd already? LOL



No one bought it anyways....
 
Sounds like your buying a Goliath grouper!

They are endangered, protected by Federal law, and your NOT even allowed to remove them from the water........................in Florida
 
I thought I liked to push limits. @Egg curiosity is getting the best of me here, so how old are you? This thread takes me back to the food coloring you added in your other thread.
 
I would like you to do something for me, buy that grouper then buy a peacock mantis shrimp and see how long that shrimp will last. Tell me when he gets eaten
 
And man if you want a grouper GO and get yourself a grouper.
 
That's it! I'm selling my 180, and moving up, say maybe 1000 gal. That video is great. I want a grouper. I can feed him sharks no problem, I always catch them.
I'm charging $5. To watch, $10. To feed, buy your own shark!
 
He asked if it can go in a reef tank. If he can provide a pond or pool, great, but I really doubr that he will be providing a 'good home' for a fish that size.
 
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Cool!...............errrr....nice turn-over, you really didn't want them anyway. I have a friend with a 11 foot Boa. Feeding is expensive, unless you grow your own rabbits.
 
Sounds like your buying a Goliath grouper!

They are endangered, protected by Federal law, and your NOT even allowed to remove them from the water........................in Florida
and that law needs to be changed! if you boat one and can't prove that you weren't in Fl. waters and post your catch on fecebook (like a dumb butt--I hate Facebook this is one main reason) you will get a knock at your front door (you don't have to answer BTW! they have to physically hand you the fine or its null and void because its a violation of the constitution just like red light tickets) from a friendly FFWC officer with a fine in hand. you can't hardly get a fish off of a wreck now. they have become a flat-out nuisance. the law worked their population has exploded and now they are eating everything. there needs to be a limited season on them. theres been a lot of talk but no action because government knows best. forget what us commercial guys that are on the water most of the week have to say and lets all adhere to studies that are done here and there by people (NOA etc.) (some of which have never even been on a boat before). a lot of their studies miss the spawn and make laws around flawed data. sorry for the rant but when the government takes food off of our families tables because their #s are wrong its a problem a problem that needs to be addressed--but these laws only hurt a select few and most don't care or have a clue how commercial fishermen are pushed around. we have little to NO representation within the governmental law making bodies. people stand behind the guys that bring you FRESH fish. its a very tough living but without us you'll have tilapia and farmed gmo salmon as your choice of fish for your families dinner plates--both heavily marketed as good for you (FYI its garbage folks).

totally off topic but lion fish are brood spawners and Atlantis in Nassau pumps in fresh seawater and dumps old seawater full of lion fish sperm and eggs. Atlantis needs to be held responsible for the explosion of lion fish in the Caribbean!!!!!!!!!!! the explosion came on way to fast for the average aquarist dumping their babies that out grew their tanks to have taken over like they have
 
commercial fisherman waste a lot of fish. Here in NY and NJ, commercial guys dump Striped Bass by the mile, filling tags on only the larger slot size fish. Draggers net tons of fish, but the by catch that also gets dumped back in is dead. Again, just a waste.
The grouper and lion fish explosion is or has taken over. Unfortunately, the people that make these decisions don't fish, or eat fish, and would never have a fish tank.
For years, old NYC subway cars have been given away to every state along the East coast, but not in NY.
After the WTC terrorist attack, most of the rubble was piled up on a few reefs on the south shore of Long Island. Everything on the reef died, life on the reef returned years later.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

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