two guys corals
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Clarification on Jaw Dropper origins
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That is nice to know.
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Moved to present location.
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Thank you Sir!!!
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While I applaud the effort to distance yourself from RR USA it's still unclear whether or not anyone who sells a frag of "jawdropper" second/third hand has a legitimate piece. Unless you are keeping track of who sells to who and personally validate each frag gets sold, correct?
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Yes I do keep track of the people I sold them too.
Bottom line is I just want to protect all those collectors that paid top $$$.
This is the craziest, funny discussion of "branding". There have been multiple clarifications and apparently English must be a confusing language because except for a great deal of bravado, it's all silly and none of it seems to be clarified.
So if I understand it, a LFS in canada is no more. The owner may or may not have coral farmers who may or may not have pests and other assorted issues. He may or not be a wholesaler/tran shipper Although he now seems to ship to a wholesaler in long beach. The long beach wholesaler employed an agent/photographer who may or may not be able to authenticate lineage of what exactly is still a little confusing. This agent is no longer their agent but may or may not still have ties to the long beach wholesaler
Business relations have been rearranged for unknown but speculated reasons.
The original colony may have died. New frags have reappeared, pictures of the old or new colony reappear, not sure which. Still, this is one of the prettiest corals ever pictured but whether new frags are truly lineaged to the original colony may or may not be accurate. So far, no mature colonies seen from hobbyist tanks but perhaps some frags may or may not blossom to the original eye candy in some reefer's tank yet.
I think most sps fanatics have this coral on their dream list. It sure seems like this was a wild colony that just looked so amazingly terrific. I hope the hobby sees some of the new frags match expectations of the original pictures but this may or may not be realized.
I have however not enjoyed the innuendo, hype, bravado or even the confusing clarifications by the sellers. This ongoing discussion has been and is embarrassing. I am not interested who is on who's payroll, or who shines who's boots. I think selling coral as a business must be incredibly difficult and fraught with financial risk. Sometimes, gentlemen, less said is better.
I do give reef raft USA a great deal of credit for staying out of the fray, though . Guys keep your private affairs to yourselves. I do have to admit that when this level of drama makes one closed thread after another, it is difficult to stop following along. Kind of like staring at an accident on the side of the road. You know you shouldn't look, but it's hard not to.
All I really want is for you all to share your beautiful corals with us all.
So if I understand it, a LFS in canada is no more. The owner may or may not have coral farmers who may or may not have pests and other assorted issues. He may or not be a wholesaler/tran shipper Although he now seems to ship to a wholesaler in long beach. The long beach wholesaler employed an agent/photographer who may or may not be able to authenticate lineage of what exactly is still a little confusing. This agent is no longer their agent but may or may not still have ties to the long beach wholesaler
Business relations have been rearranged for unknown but speculated reasons.
The original colony may have died. New frags have reappeared, pictures of the old or new colony reappear, not sure which. Still, this is one of the prettiest corals ever pictured but whether new frags are truly lineaged to the original colony may or may not be accurate. So far, no mature colonies seen from hobbyist tanks but perhaps some frags may or may not blossom to the original eye candy in some reefer's tank yet.
I think most sps fanatics have this coral on their dream list. It sure seems like this was a wild colony that just looked so amazingly terrific. I hope the hobby sees some of the new frags match expectations of the original pictures but this may or may not be realized.
I have however not enjoyed the innuendo, hype, bravado or even the confusing clarifications by the sellers. This ongoing discussion has been and is embarrassing. I am not interested who is on who's payroll, or who shines who's boots. I think selling coral as a business must be incredibly difficult and fraught with financial risk. Sometimes, gentlemen, less said is better.
I do give reef raft USA a great deal of credit for staying out of the fray, though . Guys keep your private affairs to yourselves. I do have to admit that when this level of drama makes one closed thread after another, it is difficult to stop following along. Kind of like staring at an accident on the side of the road. You know you shouldn't look, but it's hard not to.
All I really want is for you all to share your beautiful corals with us all.
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you keep track of who you sell to, but you have no idea most likely who they are selling/trading to correct?
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Yes correct but you can alway track from the original buyer. There's only a hand full.
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It proofs only that the frags that were sold earlier this year by SC, JtC and Two Guys came from RR Canada.
Nothing wrong with it I would say.
Only that Tony calls his The RR USA JD a little different than RR JD and I believe nobody said it came from Canada.
There are some different shortcakes, space invaders, dragons and pink lemonades named by different vendors.................so what!!
You like the coral you buy it, not because of the name.
I had the possibility to buy corals Whole Sale that were looking much nicer for less than the original frag of the RR JD, and I'm talking colonies here.
I bought a small frag of the JD and IMHO I don't think it's a awesome coral at all, just all the hype about it takes all the fun away from it.
Matter the fact is I gave it to a good friend of mine to hold it in his tank, as many other rare corals that weren't doing great to a small hiccup in my tank.
I really thinking about it not having it back in my tank just because all this.
Protection value of corals goes only so far and has limits, you have to work with certificates and what more.
Nothing wrong with it I would say.
Only that Tony calls his The RR USA JD a little different than RR JD and I believe nobody said it came from Canada.
There are some different shortcakes, space invaders, dragons and pink lemonades named by different vendors.................so what!!
You like the coral you buy it, not because of the name.
I had the possibility to buy corals Whole Sale that were looking much nicer for less than the original frag of the RR JD, and I'm talking colonies here.
I bought a small frag of the JD and IMHO I don't think it's a awesome coral at all, just all the hype about it takes all the fun away from it.
Matter the fact is I gave it to a good friend of mine to hold it in his tank, as many other rare corals that weren't doing great to a small hiccup in my tank.
I really thinking about it not having it back in my tank just because all this.
Protection value of corals goes only so far and has limits, you have to work with certificates and what more.
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Said perfectly. Only one jawdroppper hmm is a big ocean and there are many collectors in indo and other regions. what was once rare is now common in time. I guess it all depends where one wants to sit on the coral paramid sceme. All of this to me is just a reminder to by tank raised corals for others that have became jems in time and with proven with time. Reminds me of the time when Tyree would evaluate corals before coming LE's there were a few that never got there because Tyree could not get the same color. my how things have changed.
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This is all so crazy over a hyped up photo which not one frag has ever even come close to looking like. All I have seen is a couple browned out frags. A fake would probably be a good thing, especially if it has some color. This kind of stuff gives this hobby a bad reputation for those that dont care about overpriced brown coral. This entire ordeal is laughable at best. Wake up people!
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