Depressing morning

[Jedi1199]

Guys, let's not turn this into an "Attack Brandon" thread. He is doing his best, in his own way. He may come off harsh to some, but realize, we all have our own way of expressing ourselves. Let those amongst us, who is without sin, cast the first stone...

 

[MnFish1]

Agreed. In this instance - as I said - for the reason I said -he is wrong - thats not attacking him.

 

[MnFish1]

Thank you haha. But I didn’t not Frank’s any water from the neglected tank. It was from my 75 which had weekly 10% water changes and parameters check every 3-4 days because we didn’t even know the the neglected tank had fish and really was out of options about placement for them.
I will say the I checked the ammonia level around 11 and it was almost 4ppm. I don’t know how fast fish start to give ammonia off when they die and when I came out one was half sucked into the wave maker.

OK - thats a problem - if the ammonia was 4 ppm. Even with the pH drop.

 

[Imaburch]

Sorry for your loss. I had this happen to my Bio Cube last year and figured out that it came from a used pump I installed.

 

[Jedi1199]

Thank you haha. But I didn’t not Frank’s any water from the neglected tank. It was from my 75 which had weekly 10% water changes and parameters check every 3-4 days because we didn’t even know the the neglected tank had fish and really was out of options about placement for them.
I will say the I checked the ammonia level around 11 and it was almost 4ppm. I don’t know how fast fish start to give ammonia off when they die and when I came out one was half sucked into the wave maker.

You need to understand this.. Freshwater fish urinate frequently with minute amounts of ammonia present in their excretions. Saltwater fish are the polar opposite. Their excretions are HEAVILY concentrated with ammonia. Its not the dead fish that will spike your ammonia, its the LIVE ones!!!

 

[Jedi1199]

Even still.. unless you went down a size or two with your tank, I do not see a simple tank move as your issue. Without being present to witness the exact process, and without a data log of what your exact parameters are and were before and after the move, this is all "Best Guess"

 

[Jedi1199]

Agreed. In this instance - as I said - for the reason I said -he is wrong - thats not attacking him.

We are all free to disagree... Just let's keep the attack vibe down.

Not pointing any fingers, just saying.

 

[BZOFIQ]

I would have said COVID but Joe already said that the pandemic is over




On a serious note, sorry for your loss - I would have been pretty depressed had I lost all in one shot.

 

[Pistondog]

I am devastated this morning. I came to feed my fish and the whole tank is dead. Every single fish and snail. I feel like it had to be the new heater shocked the tank. What else could have happened. Everyone was happy and swimming when I went to bed. I feel awful they went out this way. Pic posted to confirm my suspicion. How can I figure out what piece of equipment did this.
Rip
Nemo
Marlin
Elegance
Bluey
Banna
Don Quixote
Coral jr
Marlin jr
Benny
Mr cra

Sorry, likely not your fault, but we feel bad as we have let down our pets.
When troubleshooting always consider the last thing changed.
When did you add the new heater?
What type?
Could that be a contamination source?

 

[Jeffcb]

I am devastated this morning. I came to feed my fish and the whole tank is dead. Every single fish and snail. I feel like it had to be the new heater shocked the tank. What else could have happened. Everyone was happy and swimming when I went to bed. I feel awful they went out this way. Pic posted to confirm my suspicion. How can I figure out what piece of equipment did this.
Rip
Nemo
Marlin
Elegance
Bluey
Banna
Don Quixote
Coral jr
Marlin jr
Benny
Mr cra

First of all I am sorry for your loss. That's devastating.

Many years ago I lost an entire tank of about 10 fish over night. Not sure if this is what happened to you but this is what happened to me.

I had an Oceanic 55 gallon with glass tops in my bedroom. I removed the glass tops to do a water change, vacuumed the gavel and cleaned the glass. Simultaneously my wife at the time... was cleaning the bathroom attached to the bedroom the tank was in. I smelled the harsh chemical being used in the bathroom for cleaning but paid no attention.

The next morning all the fish were dead. Fumes did it.

 

[davidcalgary29]

I suspect water and suspect something entered tank whether it be chemical, atmospheric or toxin such as pet urine, candle burning, paint fumes. . . something in that category.
Hate to ask, but any children that may have stuck foreign object in tank or sump ?

Yes, yes, yes. I love my kids dearly, but I couldn't convince fairly bright tweens that it wasn't a great idea to put bleach in the water jugs Dad used for water changes. Or that spray bottles with bleach shouldn't be used in Star Wars tournaments in the house.

I'm going with a contaminant. The orientation of the dead fish in this tank is exactly what happened during my bleaching/anoxic events. When I had a disease wipeout last year it was fast -- all the fish died in two days -- but they hid in the aquascape as they neared death.

 

[Dav2996]

Yes. It’s a hygger titanium with a controller.

I only use inkbird controller can plug any heater to it and it will cool your tank

 

[eliza209]

I'm so sorry! I had this happen in a freshwater tank I had in my office. I thought for a long time it was a heater malfunction, but have come to believe our custodians may have cleaned the glass with some chemical. It is devastating.

 

[Dav2996]

No but I think it was neglectful planing for the move. I feel confident if I didn’t have to move the tank I wouldn’t be posting this thread.
I believe where I went wrong is using water soaked through the substrate. At the time I didn’t even give it any thought but my assumption is I pulled a lot of waste products out and when placed in the new tank gave it nowhere to go and broke down into a massive ammonia spike.

I moved my tank had 0 issues I also use UV sterilizer. Kills the disease in the water so my fish are tough

 

[stinkydavis]

When reading the contamination comments I did use pledge to clean the stand I built but I was a good 15 feet away. I did spray on heavy because there was lots of sawdust( this was settled on the stand well before I put the 75 in the garage.

 

[stinkydavis]

I suspect water and suspect something entered tank whether it be chemical, atmospheric or toxin such as pet urine, candle burning, paint fumes. . . something in that category.
Hate to ask, but any children that may have stuck foreign object in tank or sump ?

Pet urine is a small possibility. As I think through everything there was a couple big clumps of salt that I mixed up to add into the tank. I had to add about 8-9 gallons to make up for the sand no longer being in there. I honestly Chaulked it up to humidity in the basement where I store it. It was a bag not a pail. All of the chemicals are pretty locked up but I am dog sitting my father in laws dog who isn’t neutered and he owes on a lot when he first gets here. (Drives me nuts) I don’t remember a yellow coloring but the clumps do stand out to me.

 

[stinkydavis]

For tank parameters I did test test test my water. I am a stay at home dad and my soon loves helping me do it. Below are the very typical numbers
Salinity-1.025(refractometer checked with calibration fluid)
Ph-8.0-8.2
Alkalinity-lowest was 10 highest was 12.6. Mostly hovered in low 11s
Ammonia-0-.12 (Hannah checked)
Nitrite-0 (API)
Nitrate-0-5 (Hannah checker)
Phosphate- had some unbelievable numbers from api for awhile 10 or so when first running last two weeks been .2-.4 (salfiert)
Calcium 430-460(api)
Temp was 78
I used to run a water bottling plant before quiting to do the SAHD thing. I have a pretty good understanding of water chemistry or like to think I do. This website humbles me often haha.

 

[Rmckoy]

77.5 water temp

Thank you haha. But I didn’t not Frank’s any water from the neglected tank. It was from my 75 which had weekly 10% water changes and parameters check every 3-4 days because we didn’t even know the the neglected tank had fish and really was out of options about placement for them.
I will say the I checked the ammonia level around 11 and it was almost 4ppm. I don’t know how fast fish start to give ammonia off when they die and when I came out one was half sucked into the wave maker.

at 11 the ammonia was at 4ppm ?
This alone would be enough to kill a entire tank over night .
The main question is why is there ammonia , why is there 10 fish in this aquarium ?
We’re all 10 fish added to cycle the tank ?

temp of 77 wont kill this fast , even if stray voltage from a broken new heater , as mentioned above it should kill the fish . Within reason .

let’s go back to where did the ammonia come from and why so high ?

 

[TangerineSpeedo]

Guys, let's not turn this into an "Attack Brandon" thread. He is doing his best, in his own way. He may come off harsh to some, but realize, we all have our own way of expressing ourselves. Let those amongst us, who is without sin, cast the first stone...

I was not, nor was my intent to. I was trying to get him to understand that he may have valid points, but they are not coming across effectively. If you are speaking to an audience you must approach them on their level. And as one may have said English may not be his first language, which makes trying to get your point across even more difficult.

 

[stinkydavis]

77.5 water temp

at 11 the ammonia was at 4ppm ?
This alone would be enough to kill a entire tank over night .
The main question is why is there ammonia , why is there 10 fish in this aquarium ?
We’re all 10 fish added to cycle the tank ?

temp of 77 wont kill this fast , even if stray voltage from a broken new heater , as mentioned above it should kill the fish . Within reason .

let’s go back to where did the ammonia come from and why so high ?

As stated. My intention was not to add this much stock to the tank so closely. Even posted on the forum for advice on what to do. Gave away 3 of the 9 fish that were in there. The guy who was getting rid of the tank didn’t even know there where any fish in the tank because on the thick coralline algae build up.
the tank was keeping up with the bioload fine as stated in my previous post with avg readings.
I don’t know where the ammonia spike is from. The pledge I used does not contain ammonia