Juan Carlos of Reef Envy was the original guy with the solid orange PE's, hence the name Envy Orange PE. It's the same as calling blue zoas Tubs Blues, just because they are blue instead of identifying them as having come from Tubs himself. The ID name and the lineage names have gotten a little blurry compared to SPS and LPS collectors, but I hope they're the same polyp and the market floods with them...I never liked how the monopoly of a coral makes the price skyrocket.
yeah, you are exactly right.
The Tubs blues thing got totally messed up. as word from Tubs himself is that he only gave out like 2 frags of blue zoas from his original colony, yet everyone on the planet who has blue zoas called them "Tubs blue zoas" but they don't have any lineage to back it up....lol. thus most newer people in the hobby don't even understand the lineage thing.



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