Is this velvet?

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks I don’t have Kanaplex on hand. Should I start with the Furan and Kanaplex when I get it? Provided nothing dislodged during the fw dip.

Yes, that is better than waiting. You can just add Kanaplex to the mix once you have it.

 

[KMench]

@HotRocks Thanks. I've got the water circulating and a heater going for my FW dip. First time ever trying one of these. I read the thread on here to get it set up

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks Thanks. I've got the water circulating and a heater going for my FW dip. First time ever trying one of these. I read the thread on here to get it set up

It seems much more stressful that it really is. Don't be alarmed if the fish lays on it's side for most of the dip. It's normal. Set a timer. Remove and place directly back into the QT at 5min mark.

Use a dark bucket so you can see if flukes come off. They are much easier to see in a dark container. Good luck!

 

[KMench]

More stressful for me than for the fish apparently The tang swam around the whole time like nothing much was going on. I don’t see much from the FW dip, and there’s still string like things hanging from the fish.

I think most of what’s in the picture is sand from the bucket.

 

[HotRocks]

I would start antibiotics.

I don't see anything indicative of flukes.

 

[KMench]

Ok. Thanks for your continuing help. I ordered more financial 2 and Kanaplex with prime. I have enough furan to get started but not enough to finish a week. The fish have been in copper for two weeks, so maybe it’s worth transferring to a clean tank and treating with just antibiotics instead of antibiotics and copper. Is it ok to dose the antibiotics at the same time? Or do you alternate treatment days?

 

[KMench]

@HotRocks I’m not going to be home this weekend until Sunday evening. Furan 2 says to dose, wait 24 hours and then dose again. Should I just dose tonight and then wait until Sunday to re-dose? Or wait until Sunday to start the treatment? I just did a water change in the QT tank with the purple tang.

 

[KMench]

Is it possible that the freshwater dip would affect the bacteria on the fish? There’s much fewer of those white tufts on the fish several hours after the freshwater dip? Maybe the osmotic pressure killed some of the bacteria?

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks I’m not going to be home this weekend until Sunday evening. Furan 2 says to dose, wait 24 hours and then dose again. Should I just dose tonight and then wait until Sunday to re-dose? Or wait until Sunday to start the treatment? I just did a water change in the QT tank with the purple tang.

Dose now and then again on Sunday. That way you have at least some antibiotics present. Heavy heavy agitation at surface of water is key here. Combining meds depletes oxygen.

 

[KMench]

Ok. I’ll dose today and then hopefully the Kanaplex is here by Sunday and I’ll add that as well. Depending upon what time we get back Sunday I might be able to make enough rodi to transfer to a new sterile QT since that’ll be the two week mark for therapeutic copper. I read in one of @Humblefish posts that copper is an immunosuppressant so it can’t hurt to get them out of the copper.

 

[KMench]

Dosed the second round of antibiotics yesterday. Fish appears to be getting better, didn't notice any of those fuzzy things on the fish when I returned home yesterday.

 

[HotRocks]

Dosed the second round of antibiotics yesterday. Fish appears to be getting better, didn't notice any of those fuzzy things on the fish when I returned home yesterday.

Good deal!

 

[KMench]

I didn't manage to make enough water, so I assigned that task to my girlfriend while I'm at work for 36 hours. Going to execute the transfer to a sterile tank Tuesday evening when I get home.

 

[KMench]

Transferred to a sterile tank. All is going well. Haven’t lost any fish through the process

 

[HotRocks]

Transferred to a sterile tank. All is going well. Haven’t lost any fish through the process

AWESOME!!! So glad to hear this.

 

[KMench]

@HotRocks I just moved the last of the fish today out of copper and into a sterile quarantine tank. The two clownfish I have look like they've got a bit of pop eye going on :mad: should I just give them a few days and see how it goes now that they are out of the copper which immunosuppresses them some? I also read Epsom salt on the forms here somewhere for pop eye. I don't have any of that, but have Pharma grade BRS Mag sulfate or mag chloride. Could I substitute one of them for epsom salt?

 

[HotRocks]

You could use neoplex. If you have Kanaplex on hand I'd go ahead and dose it.

@Humblefish can probably answer your questions in regards to the substitute for epsom salt.

 

[rkpetersen]

I also read Epsom salt on the forms here somewhere for pop eye. I don't have any of that, but have Pharma grade BRS Mag sulfate or mag chloride. Could I substitute one of them for epsom salt?

Epsom salt that you buy at the drugstore is 100% USP magnesium sulfate. BRS pharma grade mag sulfate should be identical and usable in the same quantity for treatment. Epsom salt added to water definitely works to reduce eye swelling through its osmotic effect, for freshwater fish. But I'm not sure how helpful it is for saltwater fish; in principle, I wouldn't expect it to do much.

 

[KMench]

@rkpetersen oh really? I believe I read on several threads here that they used it to treat pop eye.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/pop-eye.323185/

 

[rkpetersen]

I don't disagree with anything in that thread, or others like it. It's just not clear to me that epsom salt actually does anything in saltwater, and if so, how it does it. Adding mag sulfate will not increase the osmotic pressure of saltwater anything like it will do with freshwater, which is how it is claimed to work in freshwater. Does it hurt? No. Does it help? I'm not convinced. Most cases of unilateral popeye are probably destined to resolve without any treatment, and bilateral is likely bacterial infection and should be treated with antibiotics.