Lost WD in 1 night

[pirate2876]

Come for help and get blasted. Have high end sps and is could b thisnor that. No I needed a high end sps and slight lps person 2 help. 2 kill 1 coral over others is 100% odd and can only b chalked 2 alk and that coral like Millis don't take well 2 it. So a loathed quantity of water is needed 2 not have that happen. I knew that would most likely be the problem and asked her for a confirmation and got random responses. The nem just makes me laugh. A sebea moving randomly and back.... stinging. A coral deep in a rack and the other random posts made it even better. I'm posting a question on a serious problem and get sarcasm. I don't like trolls... thanks 2 every1 that truly trying 2 help the find a reason

Calm down buddy, people are only trying to help. Listen, no one here is going to be able to tell you with absolute certainty what killed your coral. No one. Try posting your water parameters. Tell us what you used to test the water. Tell us more about your tank set-up. What/how do you dose? Maybe with a bit more information, we can help point you in the right direction.

 

[prsnlty]

Come for help and get blasted. Have high end sps and is could b thisnor that. No I needed a high end sps and slight lps person 2 help. 2 kill 1 coral over others is 100% odd and can only b chalked 2 alk and that coral like Millis don't take well 2 it. So a loathed quantity of water is needed 2 not have that happen. I knew that would most likely be the problem and asked her for a confirmation and got random responses. The nem just makes me laugh. A sebea moving randomly and back.... stinging. A coral deep in a rack and the other random posts made it even better. I'm posting a question on a serious problem and get sarcasm. I don't like trolls... thanks 2 every1 that truly trying 2 help the find a reason

Everyone is seriously trying to help you. No one is blasting you or being sarcastic. We can't personally see your tank or know what it is that you are doing or not doing that could be the cause. We then ask a lot of questions. I said in the first place it is most likely Alk. But it is strange that only one was affected so then look for other possibilities. I personally had/have 71 Acro, millipora, pocillopora and many monti colonies up until a power outage crashed the 180g and killed 40 acros, milli's, pocilloporas and 2 lps. So yes, I know a thing or 2 about SPS

That being said we are here to help as best we can and do apologize if you took anything we said the wrong way.

 

[wish]

Overstocked tank sps and lps in a small tank I would do water changes than dosing anything so try to keep
a stable tank waters. Don't forget some things you can't test for. fyi hammers sometime release a small polyp
and you could see this in blue light and float around the tank. I've seen this happen to my hammer and possible one polyp
landed on the sps. I believe its a defense for space.

 

[Sabellafella]

Going to have to narrow it down. I certainly dont think it has to do with alkalinity at all(unless you added a bunch of sps frags at that time). If you had this coral for weeks growing then suddenly overnight rtned then yea, could be a swing in alk. But atleast 1 other coral wouldve atleast been "unhappy" over it. For it to rtn over night, it had to have been something very wrong that the coral didnt like - over night like that. The wd is pretty darn hardy, it had to have been something like temp flux, sg flux, ph flux, getting stung, or even if it was just not having it due to the parameters it grew in prior to your tank. From what ive put together, it had to come down to acclimation, or somewhere along those lines.

 

[prsnlty]

Going to have to narrow it down. I certainly dont think it has to do with alkalinity at all(unless you added a bunch of sps frags at that time). If you had this coral for weeks growing then suddenly overnight rtned then yea, could be a swing in alk. But atleast 1 other coral wouldve atleast been "unhappy" over it. For it to rtn over night, it had to have been something very wrong that the coral didnt like - over night like that. The wd is pretty darn hardy, it had to have been something like temp flux, sg flux, ph flux, getting stung, or even if it was just not having it due to the parameters it grew in prior to your tank. From what ive put together, it had to come down to acclimation, or somewhere along those lines.

I agree!

 

[Sabellafella]

Also youd be suprized, that encrusted monti couldve sent its filaments out at night, and made that frag a quick meal thats for sure.

 

[flyfisherman]

Sps can die randomly. Could be any combination of factors. You will never know in this situation. That strain may not like your tank. I wouldnt try another for a while, or maybe try a different vendor. If i were to bet, and everything was in line like you said....you probably moved it too much and it didnt like flow and realized it wasnt in nature and killed itself....

 

[mkutsch]

So, ahh, maybe you should take the time to write complete sentences, Chris, so the rest of us can understand...in English. But, from what I can grasp, your Walt died because of either your nem getting too close and/ or alkalinity changes. Have you recently cleaned any equip with any stuff like vinegar? Also, shocking as it may seem, not everything comes from the same environment; this includes acros. Its very possible that your conditions changed to be unaccommodating of the WD's suitable conditions, stressing and killing it.

 

[mkutsch]

Sps can die randomly. Could be any combination of factors. You will never know in this situation. That strain may not like your tank. I wouldnt try another for a while, or maybe try a different vendor. If i were to bet, and everything was in line like you said....you probably moved it too much and it didnt like flow and realized it wasnt in nature and killed itself....

Coral committing suicide? That's a first. Interesting point. And if his prized piece died, I wouldn't go to any vendor, at the moment.

 

[Larry L]

Also youd be suprized, that encrusted monti couldve sent its filaments out at night, and made that frag a quick meal thats for sure.

That's a good point. @Lord Chris : Did you recently move around any of the other frags on that rack, that might have put one close enough to sting the WD?

 

[Bbaz123456]

So, ahh, maybe you should take the time to write complete sentences, Chris, so the rest of us can understand...in English. But, from what I can grasp, your Walt died because of either your nem getting too close and/ or alkalinity changes. Have you recently cleaned any equip with any stuff like vinegar? Also, shocking as it may seem, not everything comes from the same environment; this includes acros. Its very possible that your conditions changed to be unaccommodating of the WD's suitable conditions, stressing and killing it.

I would have to assume that his 1st language is certainly not English. Or at least I would hope so.

 

[tyler1503]

What are your parameters? "Stable" can mean many different things. For us to be of any help, we need the numbers.
Also, what lights do you have? What is the flow like? Are you dosing anything besides the alk buffer? What alk buffer is it? Do you have any other types of filtration eg. skimmer, refugium etc.
No one's trolling you and no one's being sarcastic. Everyone is trying to help, but we are having trouble understanding your situation.

Water changes will be your friend at the moment. It will help remove any possible toxins released by corals and the nem and help balance out any parameters that may be out of line.
Try running some carbon too.
We can't help if we don't know what your parameters and hardware are though.

 

[ReefBeta]

For the 2 weeks it's in your tank, did it grow even a tiny bit? Even it was couple week, it might still be in an unhappy state, and not yet settle in the tank, and after struggle to hang on for 2 weeks, it eventually gave up and kicked the bucket. Any chance it's considered a slow growing strain? Cause sometimes slow growing strain is also slow dying. So it could have been unhappy ever since came to your tank, just managed to hold on for 2 weeks instead of 2 days. If it's growing, then yeah probably some incident happened that cause it. But if it's not yet growing, it's still possible something is still not optimal in your tank. The params may not stable enough, the light may not have enough intensity (do you have PAR meter?) or wrong spectrum (I managed to kill half of my acro by setting the LED's UV channel a bit too high), flow might not be enough or too direct, etc. So when you can't seem to find an incident that causes it, it might just because it's not caused by an incident.

Also +1 to what @flyfisherman said. Some sps will just not like some tanks even the tanks are perfectly fine, it even happens to some experienced reputable reefers. I don't think you need to too hang up in losing a single frag.

 

[Sabellafella]

That's a good point. @Lord Chris : Did you recently move around any of the other frags on that rack, that might have put one close enough to sting the WD?

Lol for reason this came to mind, i just had an extra trim from a red table, get near devoured overnight from one those encrusting montis. Ontop of that, it was about 2 1/2 inches away from the actual frag and was utterly surprised how far the monti sent its guts out. First time ever seeing something like that. Ive seen the same type of montis battle off coralline algae before, but the night after i placed the frag, i caught them fighting like the monti knew something got close to it.

 

[mkutsch]

I mean, there is also plausible explanation found in sabotage. Maybe a hitchhiker...?

 

[mkutsch]

For the 2 weeks it's in your tank, did it grow even a tiny bit? Even it was couple week, it might still be in an unhappy state, and not yet settle in the tank, and after struggle to hang on for 2 weeks, it eventually gave up and kicked the bucket. Any chance it's considered a slow growing strain? Cause sometimes slow growing strain is also slow dying. So it could have been unhappy ever since came to your tank, just managed to hold on for 2 weeks instead of 2 days. If it's growing, then yeah probably some incident happened that cause it. But if it's not yet growing, it's still possible something is still not optimal in your tank. The params may not stable enough, the light may not have enough intensity (do you have PAR meter?) or wrong spectrum (I managed to kill half of my acro by setting the LED's UV channel a bit too high), flow might not be enough or too direct, etc. So when you can't seem to find an incident that causes it, it might just because it's not caused by an incident.

Also +1 to what @flyfisherman said. Some sps will just not like some tanks even the tanks are perfectly fine, it even happens to some experienced reputable reefers. I don't think you need to too hang up in losing a single frag.

Esp the UVs and Greens.

 

[Tahoe61]

I am so impressed with all the help that was offered to another hobbyist, thank you to all posters.

Most sps keeper have likely had very similar experiences, it may not be a high end piece but it happens to all of us.

Sorry for your frustration, and I would also be very disappointed as well, but I see only other hobbyist trying to offer assistance .

 

[mkutsch]

There certainly are many people viewing this thread, yes. I count a hundred and fifteen total as of now.

 

[Sir Chris]

I'm not purchasing any corals for awhile. The corals next 2 it wernt happy aswell. Since RAP Sunday it was in and at the lower rack I made in the back away from anuthing that can sting for it I'd watch it eat and it's polyps move in the flow. My water sample at lfs said ultra low nutrien system and ph is 7.8. It was 8.5 a few days ago but I've seen bigger swings and not do anything. I have 6 other frags from rap and 1 has alittle bottom necrosis from needing more light so all needs 2 b moved up. If it was acclimation that did it then I fear for the other 1s I purchased as they all look acclimated and polyps out just some under color lose I take from being far down and less par. Both he lfs guys said wilds can do that 2 a aqua cultured as the bacteria isn't acceptable and kill anything not immune. Seen it nuke sps. So everything on ur water tests says at night all ur coals are pulling in dkh causeing alk drop and if it was low enough hen it coulda bit it as it's a small frag. So don't stop ur doing an amazing job just need more water quality". So I've been rebuffering slowly 2 bring it back up 2 what it was close 2 pre buffing and try and not chase a number daily and just stay on my schedule.

 

[Sir Chris]

Also it was last night I did a water change Woke 2 it. Changed water around 6 and lights ramp at 9