PO4 and Aquaforest

[Anirban]

@Anirban any comments for you side?


For @Perry and @Anirban
Also, i would like clarify 2 points:
1 - what is the best place to drop NP and Pro Bio S? in facebook group, i saw people dropping, at sump, or at display tank but during the night tank time. what is the best place and time to dose?

2 - in the guide, there is a place saying that Bio F should be used together with pro bio S, is it only for the new tanks?

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Regards

1. You dont need to dose any of those during night, only the coral food or amino or vitamin during night. I dose them directly in my tank and I dont think there is any issue with that unless you dose it in skimmer compartment.
2. Bio F is a mixture of probiotic bacteria and culture medium. So, you can use it either Pro bio S and NP pro or Pro bioF. But dont dose them together.

As for your case I will say get a bottle of bio S and start dosing the tank for next 2 weeks it will kick start or balance out your nitrogen cycle and then as NO3 level increases you PO4 will be used up by the probiotic bacteria and you tank will stabilise. But all these will take time so keep your calm.

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@Anirban Thanks a lot. I'm already dosing Pro Bio S / NP 14 drops a day (2x recommend dosage, upgraded the dosage due no results with the normal ones). I'm ok... just checking the parameter 2/3 a week. today i will check the PO4

 

[Gary Wilkinson]

@Anirban any comments for you side?


For @Perry and @Anirban
Also, i would like clarify 2 points:
1 - what is the best place to drop NP and Pro Bio S? in facebook group, i saw people dropping, at sump, or at display tank but during the night tank time. what is the best place and time to dose?

2 - in the guide, there is a place saying that Bio F should be used together with pro bio S, is it only for the new tanks?

(https://m.facebook.com/groups/1490485151247025?view=permalink&id=1593607187601487&refid=18&_ft_=qid.6337277662276585389:mf_story_key.1593607187601487:tl_objid.1593607187601487)

Regards

I dose this first thing in the morning into high flow in the display, on the basis I will be feeding and the bacteria will have somthing to work on
the foods I also dose in the display but at or just before the lights go out as corals feed at night

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@Gary Wilkinson so you mean at before the lights goes on, you dose NP Pro, once the lights go off, you dose Pro Bio S?

 

[Gary Wilkinson]

@Gary Wilkinson so you mean at before the lights goes on, you dose NP Pro, once the lights go off, you dose Pro Bio S?

Np Pro and Pro Bio S am before work time isnt that important

Coral Feeds Amino Mix, Build, Energy and Vitality at lights out

 

[Flavio Carpi]

another think that i noted is, my glass is getting with brown stuff and i have to clean them every day, is it a good signal? bad signal?

 

[Flavio Carpi]

another think that i noted is, my glass is getting with brown stuff and i have to clean them every day, is it a good signal? bad signal?

@Gary Wilkinson @Perry @Anirban is it a good signal?

 

[Anirban]

@Gary Wilkinson @Perry @Anirban is it a good signal?

I dont think its a good sign.....what are your PO4 and NO3 readings currently?

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@Anirban

No3 = 0 salifert
PO4 = 0.1 at Hanna

Yesterday I changed the phosphate minus into the tlf 150

Tomorrow I will test again

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@Anirban @Perry @Gary Wilkinson follow below how my hydras are setup

 

[Gary Wilkinson]

another think that i noted is, my glass is getting with brown stuff and i have to clean them every day, is it a good signal? bad signal?

I would cut back or stop for a while Amino Mix, its very concentrated and might be more than your tank needs

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@Gary Wilkinson I'm not using any other products than pro bio s and np pro

 

[eg8r210]

If nitrates are No3 is 0 and Po4 is .1 then you might have an imbalance. You might try adding a little nitrate to and then check to see if that helps get your phos to go down.

 

[Flavio Carpi]

@eg8r210 i've already checked it, but im confused in how much should i have to dose. Also due the output the tanks is showing (brown algae) at the glass that have to be cleaned every day, dont know if i dose more no3 will cause much more brown algae. (or maybe i'm just making some confusion)

 

[eg8r210]

@eg8r210 i've already checked it, but im confused in how much should i have to dose. Also due the output the tanks is showing (brown algae) at the glass that have to be cleaned every day, dont know if i dose more no3 will cause much more brown algae. (or maybe i'm just making some confusion)

Hopefully someone else will chime in. Depending on what you buy, Brightwells Floringo, it should have some directions on the bottle. I would dose to add 1-2 ppm nitrate and see what happens.

 

[Perry]

It is possible to have leaching phosphates from rock or sand? How old is the system, the rock in the system(live or dead), and how large and what type of corals? Many things to look over as to determine source.

 

[Brian Treadwell]

Look into redfield theory , ther is a balance between No3 and Po4 that needs to be meet IMO , I am fighting the same thing at Po4 being .09 you should have No3 around 10 ppm this is a balancing act again that is MO , it works for my tank.

 

[jsker]

@Flavio Carpi are running filter socks? I pulled mine and the daitoms on the glass went away.

 

[Flavio Carpi]

It is possible to have leaching phosphates from rock or sand? How old is the system, the rock in the system(live or dead), and how large and what type of corals? Many things to look over as to determine source.

@Perry
It is possible to have leaching phosphates from rock or sand? [ANSWER] Don't know, how can I know it?

How old is the system, the rock in the system(live or dead), and how large and what type of corals?
[answer] system has 10months and all my
Corals os around frags, just 2 colonies of zoas, and some other lps

 

[Flavio Carpi]

Look into redfield theory , ther is a balance between No3 and Po4 that needs to be meet IMO , I am fighting the same thing at Po4 being .09 you should have No3 around 10 ppm this is a balancing act again that is MO , it works for my tank.

@Brian Treadwell the point is how much to dose and which product for kno3 also if dose a lot of any no3 can I have a spike in ammonia? (Really don't know)