Releasing Yellow Tangs into the wild....sigh....

[revhtree Verified Admin]

Sigh.....:squigglemouth:

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[brannock_16]

Disappointing. I hope that she realizes that by her purchasing the 5 yellow tangs with the intent of releasing them back into the wild, she has essentially created a perpetual demand for the yellow tang. The LFS she bought them from will simply put a call out to their diver to collect more (since there is a demand) and restock in the next week or so. Some people need more common sense.

 

[whyzee429]

One thing I do know is that she isn't invited inside my house!

 

[FishLipz]

Proof that an expensive education does not make an individual smart. :nerd:. There must be a balance between conservation and collection. Nobody wants to see these fish wiped out, especially those of us who enjoy them so much, but people make a living doing this to feed their families.

 

[Monroereef]

Did she just tear open the bag and release the fish?? Does she have any idea that the water from the pet store and the ocean water will have different temp and other parameters?? Did she save them or just killed them?

 

[KLR]

Does she have a source for:

For every 10 fish collected 9 die?

She has a good goal, but I think there are better ways of carrying it out...

 

[Reed639]

Please dont bash this lady.
Even though what she is doing is stupid and wont make a difference in the tang supply.
I mean at least she cares to spend her money trying to help....

 

[Monroereef]

Please dont bash this lady.
Even though what she is doing is stupid and wont make a difference in the tang supply.
I mean at least she cares to spend her money trying to help....

Not bashing at all. However I disagree that she is trying to help. She has no idea of acclimation. People with half knowledge are more dangerous than the ones without knowledge.

 

[Reed639]

True

 

[FishLipz]

She has a degree in environmental studies which if I remember from my college days, is more based in ethics, policy, human interaction with nature and politics and less in science (tree hugger friend of mine has this degree). She means well, but I'd be more inclined to believe an impartial scientist than a conservationist with an agenda.

 

[clowns101]

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[WesF]

how many non-native diseases/parasites/pathogens do you think she has released into her local waters by now?

 

[orlando809]

she killed more fish in a few minutes then me in 3 years

 

[Reef-a-holic]

how many non-native diseases/pathogens do you think she has released into her local waters by now?

That was my initial thought too. Hawaii does have very strict import rules for non-native species so that probably helps a lot. But I've always been of the same thinking...once you remove an animal and potentially expose it to non-native diseases they should never be returned to the wild.

 

[Reed639]

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[Aloha Corals]

That was my initial thought too. Hawaii does have very strict import rules for non-native species so that probably helps a lot. But I've always been of the same thinking...once you remove an animal and potentially expose it to non-native diseases they should never be returned to the wild.

Saltwater fish are probably the least strict. You can pretty much ship in anything that is not venomous or poisonous. No sharks either...

The non-native diseases/pathogens is a point i recently made on facebook. Salinity, pH, and Temp shock are another problem. Another person made a good point... according to her math, she forced the collection of 50 yellow tangs and just killed 45 yellow tangs by buying and releasing those 5.

I understand where her heart is... Even if it is led by mis-information. I would expect a professor with her accolades to be more responsible.

Kevin

 

[secretreefer]

That was my initial thought too. Hawaii does have very strict import rules for non-native species so that probably helps a lot. But I've always been of the same thinking...once you remove an animal and potentially expose it to non-native diseases they should never be returned to the wild.

exactly. yeah "i'll just buy 5 yellow tangs and release them in the wild regardless of pathogens, fungus, parasites the water or fish has them" to me her degree means jack shmack. if she was a smart scientist she wouldn't have done that. obviously she's a wannabe and she just proved it. People like this are so wrapped up in tree hugging that they disregard the HARD FACTUAL DATA the DLNR has been compiling for YEARS.

 

[Reef-a-holic]

Saltwater fish are probably the least strict. You can pretty much ship in anything that is not venomous or poisonous. No sharks either...

The non-native diseases/pathogens is a point i recently made on facebook. Salinity, pH, and Temp shock are another problem. Another person made a good point... according to her math, she forced the collection of 50 yellow tangs and just killed 45 yellow tangs by buying and releasing those 5.

I understand where her heart is... Even if it is led by mis-information. I would expect a professor with her accolades to be more responsible.

Kevin

Shows what I know, LOL! I thought the import regs where more strict.

I like your interpretation of "her math", LOL! Statistics are funny things...they can be made to prove or disprove depending on how you serve them up.

Personally, I'm all for responsible resource management...but all you have to do is look at case after case where a total ban has been put in place. In very few cases has it worked out well long term...most of the time it actually causes an imbalance that puts new pressure on a different species. I suspect a total ban on collection after 40+ years would upset the current balance and cause a whole new set of issues.

 

[Aloha Corals]

Personally, I'm all for responsible resource management...but all you have to do is look at case after case where a total ban has been put in place. In very few cases has it worked out well long term...most of the time it actually causes an imbalance that puts new pressure on a different species. I suspect a total ban on collection after 40+ years would upset the current balance and cause a whole new set of issues.

This is a very good point...

some food for thought:

According to DNLR/DAR findings both the Yellow Tang and Kole Tang population are up, even with the current collection practices here. Now if there were no collection, think about how many fish would be out there fighting and competing for food. How many would starve to death?

 

[Reef-a-holic]

This is a very good point...

some food for thought:

According to DNLR/DAR findings both the Yellow Tang and Kole Tang population are up, even with the current collection practices here. Now if there were no collection, think about how many fish would be out there fighting and competing for food. How many would starve to death?

Exactly...and the rapid increase in one species starts a domino effect in the food chain that effects multiple species and upsets the current balance...nature will self correct given time...but we all know sudden changes are not generally a good thing.