Seriously. Need help from going off the ledge.

Huskymaniac · Apr 23, 2018

I'll grab a video tomorrow. Lights are out now. Also got the QT back up and running for what I think is the inevitable breakdown again. Trying to wrap my head around what went wrong.

Huskymaniac · Apr 24, 2018

4FordFamily said:
It’s so difficult to tell but it looks too large for velvet and perhaps too large for ich. I’m leaning lymph but if it goes away in 3-6 days or so it’s not lymph. Or if the spots move.

So all the spots are gone this morning. So definitly not lympho. Ick spots stay on longer than a day also right?

rkpetersen · Apr 24, 2018

Huskymaniac said:
So all the spots are gone this morning. So definitly not lympho. Ick spots stay on longer than a day also right?

I've seen this too and wondered about it. Not even that uncommonly. Doesn't seem to fit the life cycle of the well known parasites.

Fish blemishes can be weird. Example - Just two hours ago, I was aghast at a new large area of marked color fading and surface irregularity about 9 mm in size on the flank of my hippo tang. Aw dang, what the heck is that now? So I just now went to check on him and it's GONE. Gone gone, no trace. And the fish has been acting normally the whole time. Maybe a sting from accidentally brushing up against a nem? No idea really, just glad it's gone so quickly.

HotRocks · Apr 24, 2018

Huskymaniac said:
So all the spots are gone this morning. So definitly not lympho. Ick spots stay on longer than a day also right?

If they are gone that quickly, it is likely neither ich or lympho.

4FordFamily · Apr 24, 2018

HotRocks said:
If they are gone that quickly, it is likely neither ich or lympho.

Agree. Not velvet, either. Who knows!

Huskymaniac · Apr 24, 2018

4FordFamily said:
Agree. Not velvet, either. Who knows!

Spots are back again in different areas. This is crazy. Is he getting stung by something? Sand?

4FordFamily · Apr 24, 2018

Huskymaniac said:
Spots are back again in different areas. This is crazy. Is he getting stung by something? Sand?

Sand is my guess but I wonder why it’s sticking. I’m at a loss :/

Huskymaniac · Apr 25, 2018

I do run a pretty deep bed and have a lot.of crevices so it must be getting stuck on the fish. Once again fisj clean this morning and now a few spots on left fin. Like clockwork. Would you be comfortable adding another set of fish to the tank after qt?

rkpetersen · Apr 25, 2018

Are the spots roughly the same size and color as the sand of your sandbed?

How about some unidentified parasite that we really don't see much? One that never gets out of hand so no one has really taken the time to study it. I sometimes wonder why there are actually so few known fish parasites.

4FordFamily · Apr 25, 2018

Huskymaniac said:
I do run a pretty deep bed and have a lot.of crevices so it must be getting stuck on the fish. Once again fisj clean this morning and now a few spots on left fin. Like clockwork. Would you be comfortable adding another set of fish to the tank after qt?

I wouldn’t add anything until I’m sure this doesn’t worsen in to something more sinister.

Huskymaniac · Apr 25, 2018

Whats a good time frame? The fish would probally be in QT for 60 days are so. That should be enough time right?

Huskymaniac · Apr 25, 2018

I also wonder if this has something to do with my copper overdose issue. Fish still recovering? Excessive slimecoat?

HotRocks · Apr 25, 2018

Huskymaniac said:
Whats a good time frame? The fish would probally be in QT for 60 days are so. That should be enough time right?

Yes, but if you are infected, do you have another tank to setup for fish that are in DT?

That's what @4FordFamily was getting at I think. Keep it open JIC.

Huskymaniac · Apr 25, 2018

My QT tank is my old 75 gallon tank. Was thinking about keeping a fang tooth blenny and a chromis in there to keep cycled. I guesss they could probablly stay in there indefinitely. Everyone gets treated copper anyways so if I have to take fish out really not an issue I think.

EmptyWallet · Apr 26, 2018

Hey folks, QT > 10 feet from DT, is that a real thing? I understand the concept of 'Aeresol transmission' (I.e. sneezing = airbone cold) but have also read thats a myth with Ich. If true, is it a tiny risk or a very real one?

EmptyWallet · Apr 26, 2018

myth #10 -
https://www.thesprucepets.com/top-saltwater-aquarium-myths-2925424

If it's on the Internet it has to be accurate right? lol...

HotRocks · Apr 26, 2018

EmptyWallet said:
Hey folks, QT > 10 feet from DT, is that a real thing? I understand the concept of 'Aeresol transmission' (I.e. sneezing = airbone cold) but have also read thats a myth with Ich. If true, is it a tiny risk or a very real one?

I do believe that @Humblefish was able to transfer parasites through AT. Only with a fan blowing from the infected tank to the clean tank though... or something similar. So if your tanks are near vents and such in the home it's probably more of a concern.

I also would venture to guess, the heavier you aerate your QT tank the better chance you have for transmission to occur.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/aerosol-transmission.190292/

EmptyWallet · Apr 26, 2018

Thanks HotRocks - scary stuff!

jasonrusso · Apr 26, 2018

This was my experience.

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/315321/

Puffer has spots after CP treatment and fallow

Humblefish · Apr 26, 2018

HotRocks said:
I do believe that @Humblefish was able to transfer parasites through AT. Only with a fan blowing from the infected tank to the clean tank though... or something similar. So if your tanks are near vents and such in the home it's probably more of a concern.

I also would venture to guess, the heavier you aerate your QT tank the better chance you have for transmission to occur.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/aerosol-transmission.190292/

I was able to transfer aerosolized velvet dinospores 6’ with the aid of a fan on high.

However, this study claims almost 10 feet is possible with dynamic airflow: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0044848606001785