Oiseau Reefer
Well-Known Member
Got it at natures nook didn't look hard enough the first time
Vitamin C dosing for zoanthids (I am clueless)
- Thread starter ficklefins
- Start date
- Tagged users None
Got it at natures nook didn't look hard enough the first time
darknessheir
Community Member
so i bought the mag ascorbate, will start dosing soon when i can figure out how much to put in. i have a 100 gal system and a 12 both have zoas that hate to open or have brownish slime on them.
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Dosing Vitamin C Chart
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
What solution? If you want to drip it, VC starts to dissipate as soon as it hits water/air, so it would be useless after 8 hours of mixing into a liquid.
Last edited:
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
BUMP (someone was just asking about this chart).
-Logzor
2500 Club Member
Wow, It's been quite some time since I've heard about Vit C Dosing. Are people still doing this and how are the results? I dosed briefly and I don't remember if I had results or not.
Is Vit C considered a form of "carbon dosing"?
Is Vit C considered a form of "carbon dosing"?
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Yes, it is a form of carbon dosing but much, much more. It has been stated that VC helps with the healing/production of collagen, which is why it helps with "melting" zoanthids but also grows bigger, more colorful corals, helps heal HLLE & crypt damage in fish, as well as healthier fish/corals. I'm in my 4th year of dosing.
-Logzor
2500 Club Member
I am mainly concerned about SPS. How has it impacted those type of corals?
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Crazy growth, color & PE.
xxbrianxx
Active Member
I read the vitamin c thread with eric borneman on the marinedepot forums....and it seemed like he wasn't convinced. I'd love to try this, but he did have some valid points. I'm not disagreeing with you pufferpunk, I'd just like to see what your response would be if you had one last "rebuttal" lol.
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Eric has never tried VC, I have. I really don't care what he says or whether you dose it or not. All I can post is what it has done for my corals & fish. Your tank, do as you wish.
xxbrianxx
Active Member
Well..you posted there and had a long discussion with him for a reason right.....like I said I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just wanted to see if you've found any further evidence since then. No need to get defensive and completely avoid my question.
And also...all I was doing was asking you for evidence for dosing vit c because I'd like to improve the health of my reef. Responding with "i don't care if you dose it" doesn't exactly help. But thanks anyways.
And also...all I was doing was asking you for evidence for dosing vit c because I'd like to improve the health of my reef. Responding with "i don't care if you dose it" doesn't exactly help. But thanks anyways.
Last edited:
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Sorry for being rude & defensive. I quit RC because of so many folks trying to start a fight with me over this (among other things). Just to let you know, although Eric hasn't tried VC, Marc Levenson (Melev) has & he loves it! He's asked me to write an article on it for his forum but I haven't has the time.
toyencounters
Active Member
I heard that vitamin C lowers your alkalinity??
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Non-buffered ascorbic acid has a pH of 4. The buffered sodium ascorbate I use is 7.1. My pH remains at 8.2-3, even dosing at 23ppm.
chasethis1
Community Member
Can we get a better break down for dosing. All these ppm. (parts per million) statements are just a little too scientific, how about a more laymens version of this break down and explanation.
Thanks
Thanks
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
5-210ppm is good for getting better growth, color of already healthy corals/fish. If you are having issues with anything, bump it up from there. I round everything to the 1/4 tsp. In my 90g reef tank with about 250lbs LR, 20g fuge, 20g sump, I dose 1 tsp, 2x/day (when I remember), which is ~23ppm/dosing. Does that help?
