Vitamin C dosing for zoanthids (I am clueless)
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Pufferpunk
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Start slowly & let us know how it goes.
I'll post the dosing chart here again.
Dosing Vitamin C Chart
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
I'll post the dosing chart here again.
Dosing Vitamin C Chart
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
toyencounters
Active Member
I have a 34 gallon Solana I would say about 27 gallons of water net how much vitamin C should I dose and should I dose everyday??
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Do you have a skimmer on there?
toyencounters
Active Member
Yes Tunze 9002!
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Start with an estimate of 1/8 tsp & work your way up to 1/4 tsp within a couple of weeks. For best results, dose 2x/day.
toyencounters
Active Member
Thank you!
toyencounters
Active Member
I got my powder today how many grams would be 1/8 of a tsp??
toyencounters
Active Member
I got it 1/8 tsp is 0.7 grams thank you Pufferpunk!
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
You don't have to be too exact. I take my 1/4 tsp & estimate 1/2 of that. Good luck!
Jakef150
Active Member
Just ordered...because i noticed some zoa and paly starts melting away that i have no clue!! Few other are fine..
Figured to try it!
So im Just curious, do you mix it with RO DI water before dose it or just use tablespoon measure and dump it into the tank ?
My tank biocube 29 , I think approx 22-25 gal in tank, how much to dose it ? I'm awful with math
Thanks a million!
Jake
Figured to try it!
So im Just curious, do you mix it with RO DI water before dose it or just use tablespoon measure and dump it into the tank ?
My tank biocube 29 , I think approx 22-25 gal in tank, how much to dose it ? I'm awful with math
Thanks a million!
Jake
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
I would just place the VC crystals under the skimmer cup. Start with 1/8 tsp (1/2 of a 1/4 tsp) & then in 3 days go up to 1/4 tsp & see if that helps. Dose 2x/day. Give it about 2 weeks to see a good difference in healing & a couple of months for excellent growth & color. You may need to adjust your skimmer to drier skimmate.
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Yes , you can--they actually encourage different species bacteria growth. Just keep a very close eye on all your parameters. Maybe cut the vodka in 1/2 for a while.
kirkleigh84
Active Member
Just ordered some vit c from iherb. I have a 185 mixed reef with around 180 gallon total volume. How much should I dose?
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Dosing Vitamin C Chart
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Use this product:
NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate, Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (always good for first purchase).
Keep refrigerated.
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc. No need to be exact--I usually round to the nearest 1/4 tsp.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day. Try for at least one dose being done during lights out, as VC absorbs better in the dark.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
*Do NOT dose at high levels (>10ppm), if you don’t have a skimmer! Especially on a nano tank.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I check VC threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
Toombs
Community Member
So I have had a little issue with VC and Vodka dosing, now not saying you will have it but what I have had experienced dosing both. I started VC dosing the middle of the year or a little earlier but I have been dosing vodka for over 3 years now. When I started dosing VC I started very slow and never strayed from the amount of vodka I dosed while starting VC dosing. I did not see any issue with lower dosing VC but I did start noticing some changes in both my coral and a dino outbreak when I hit around 20ppm of VC. I did not do anything different with my water changes, I have always used Tropic Marin Pro and only other thing I dose is B-Ionic and Coral Fuel. Once I started to reduce the vodka dosing down to 15ppm from 25ppm thing's started to stabilize out and coral started to gain color back and the dino died off, took about a month and a half for this process to take it's course. Only other issue I saw was a goni I had for over 4 years started to RTN on me and then after everything stabilized it stopped. Not saying not to try VC dosing but just something that did happen to me.
Pufferpunk
Valuable Member
Yes, in my previous post about this, I suggested cutting the vodka in 1/2 while ramping up the VC, just to be sure it wouldn't affect your system in any negative ways. Then, once you've reached the max VC ppm you are looking for, let things stabilize for a while & then you may or may not want to ramp up the vodka. In a healthy system, I see no reason to use more than 5-10ppm of VC. Why did you go to 20?
toyencounters
Active Member
I noticed after I started with dosing vitamin C my alkalinity shot up it is possible??
Toombs
Community Member
You know, I never knew why I stuck with the higher ppm dosing of vodka. One of the reason I guess was bc I had my tank used to it for such a long time and pretty much started vodka dosing when the tank was setup that I never went any lower or higher. Never had any issues with it and had great result's but that is my system =) I am now only dosing 10ppm vodka and and 20ppm VC and no other issues have shown up and everything is very vibrant and happy, in fact here are a couple of pic's of thing's that have been coloring up since I got them. The CAR's frag was fragged so close to the rim that it had no color and was given to me to try and save and it has now colored back up and healed within 2 1/2 weeks and the chalice was pretty much bleached and is now gaining it's color back. I will try and find pic's of the bf as well for both frag's (don't mind the little bit of algae =P)
