We are our brothers keepers

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So I've been reading along, and I just wana be clear about one thing, this coral we are talking about is NOT a zoa or a paly correct??? Well then, why in the heck is this thread here? After all, this IS club zoa right?

So someone felt ripped off on a coral purchase... Join the flippen' club, lol. Happens to us all from time to time.

Lame sauce... All the way.
 
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So I've been reading along, and I just wana be clear about one thing, this coral we are talking about is NOT a zoa or a paly correct??? Well then, why in the heck is this thread here? After all, this IS club zoa right?

So someone felt ripped off on a coral purchase... Join the flippen' club, lol. Happens to us all from time to time.

Lame sauce... All the way.

haha I was thinking the exact same thing!
 
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So I've got to say this is an odd thread but I feel I really need to chime in. I don't know how many of the people in this thread or the original have actually dealt with Ben (Shrimplet) or Mike at Sexy Corals. But I have and I'd also say that both are friends of mine. I've gotten a few boxes from Ben and they have always been excellent. The thing is, not only were they great but Ben was a standup seller. He cut one of his rainbows for me and a week later got a text. The frag wasn't doing well and wanted to know if I either wanted a refund or offered a replacement of a few even nicer chalices at the same price. He even replaced a coral that I lost that he had no reason to replace as it died a week later. Ben has been a great person to deal with and always has top notch stuff.

Then there is Mike... There are many people who don't like Mike, he talks funny, smells bad or whatever your reason. But there are a handful of people that just want to throw him under the bus without even knowing the person on the other side of the screen. If you've ever followed Mike's posts or what he does here on R2R than you know he does the reefing community right. That doesn't mean he's always perfect. You can see that in the vendor feedback forums. But what you'll also see is that if something happens either a mistake of his own or not, he does his best to make things right. What I've also seen are the threads people refer to as getting deleted if anyone says anything bad about Mike. I've seen a lot of them when they are first posted and they are typically attacks instead of stating the facts. What I will agree with, is R2R has become over moderated. Too many posts and threads get taken down or edited way too often now. I've been here for almost 6 years now and it's really sad to see. But that's for a different thread and time.

So what does that all have to do with this thread? Well if either Mike or Ben made a mistake, they would make it right. None of us were there that day but the two of them. If there was a miscommunication or error on either of them, these are two guys I know would make it right. Mike has already taken care of the OP and said he'll make it right by anyone who bought it from him previously if they want. Mike has too much skin in the game to sell a fake coral, just doesn't make any sense. There have been some bad vendors in the past (If you've been here long enough you remember the FnF fiasco.... that was bad). But that's not what happened here. I don't believe either intentionally misled anyone, mistakes happen and it's unfortunate. No one involved in this thread is coming out a winner.

What you didn't know is Cornel contacted Shrimplet before all the threads and gave him a chance to make it right... shrimplet chose to not make it right... stand up seller... This is factual not speculation. Then the thread was created and all the drama along with it. I seen shrimplet lurking in this thread too, he knew about it before hand and now.
 
What you didn't know is Cornel contacted Shrimplet before all the threads and gave him a chance to make it right... shrimplet chose to not make it right... stand up seller... This is factual not speculation. Then the thread was created and all the drama along with it. I seen shrimplet lurking in this thread too, he knew about it before hand and now.

Fair enough. However, how is Ben supposed to know almost a year later (also no longer having the coral himself to verify) that what he was being told was the truth. The very essence of this thread was "We are our brothers keeper" but unfortunately there are a lot of shady people out there. People lie, cheat and steal all the time. Unless Ben was able verify that it was infact the frag that he claims to have received from Mike, what is he supposed to do? There are posts all the time, "I bought it as XYZ but later find out it's ABC". It's unfortunate and until we have a COA system in place, this is a risk we all take. It's not fair, fun or enjoyable for anyone involved. It flat out sucks and I'd feel awful if I were in the OP's shoes.
 
Fair enough. However, how is Ben supposed to know almost a year later (also no longer having the coral himself to verify) that what he was being told was the truth. The very essence of this thread was "We are our brothers keeper" but unfortunately there are a lot of shady people out there. People lie, cheat and steal all the time. Unless Ben was able verify that it was infact the frag that he claims to have received from Mike, what is he supposed to do? There are posts all the time, "I bought it as XYZ but later find out it's ABC". It's unfortunate and until we have a COA system in place, this is a risk we all take. It's not fair, fun or enjoyable for anyone involved. It flat out sucks and I'd feel awful if I were in the OP's shoes.

Yeah it sucks but a stand up guy is a stand up guy... look what mike did. cornel sold 1 frag to a fellow reefer. He told the same reefer he was sold a fake when he found out, and would make it right, just saying. If cornel was out to get a quick buck he would not of done that either.
 
Just got home from work and I see this thread is still a lot of fun. Hopefully we can have shrimplet come in and join the convo as well that would make things awesome, lol. My message to you all is have healthy skepticism and keep an eye out for one another. Most of us here are in this for each other, some don't even realize they are essentially paid advertisement for a vendor and will defend that vendor to the end. Others might be supporting a vendor because they are asked or given corals in response. So again, watch your backs and enjoy the hobby. Glad I was able to start a four page thread on an average Wednesday.
+1 not to shabby Mike 1smile1
 
Now I'm confused. Why was the post with the accidentally deleted thread removed?
 
No one is hiding anything but delete the accidentally deleted thread AGAIN. Come on guys. Tell me someone is not getting paid here. Hate to think like this but it just REALLY seems that way...
 
No one is hiding anything but delete the accidentally deleted thread AGAIN. Come on guys. Tell me someone is not getting paid here. Hate to think like this but it just REALLY seems that way...
I am not sure what you are responding to?

I replied to your original question in this post.

No other thread has been deleted beyond the original thread in question.
 
Yes last night a member found the thread through google I believe he said, not sure of his method. He posted page 1 and page 2 of the deleted thread. He mentioned he is only doing it because it seemed that R2R was trying to find them anyways. I managed to get a screenshot of page 1 and by the time I clicked on page 2,wooosh! Gone.
 
Yes last night a member found the thread through google I believe he said, not sure of his method. He posted page 1 and page 2 of the deleted thread. He mentioned he is only doing it because it seemed that R2R was trying to find them anyways. I managed to get a screenshot of page 1 and by the time I clicked on page 2,wooosh! Gone.

Lol he edited his own thread. Not a mod or staff. You can see the edit notes at the bottom of the post.

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Yes last night a member found the thread through google I believe he said, not sure of his method. He posted page 1 and page 2 of the deleted thread. He mentioned he is only doing it because it seemed that R2R was trying to find them anyways. I managed to get a screenshot of page 1 and by the time I clicked on page 2,wooosh! Gone.

Birther?
 
Hey, I just made a pretty unique thread that is actually about zoas and palys here IN THE ZOA FORUM. If anyone is interested ;)

I should have added a little drama to my thread, maybe I'd get more feedback that way, lol...
 
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Lol he edited his own thread. Not a mod or staff. You can see the edit notes at the bottom of the post.

Idk what your "lol" about but if he went through the trouble of finding something mods who deleted it couldn't find. Then when posted changed his mind a minute later. Ok I guess we have to go with it.
 
Read the above posts. Nothing was accidentally deleted twice. The member that posted it again removed it on his own.
 

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