Worst advice you've ever heard

An RSM 130 is a great beginner tank

Buy live rock it`s great and your tank will be cycled in a few weeks – well after having crabs and mantis shrimps.. Bubble algae and aptasia… ill never use live rock again.. Don’t care about the benefits..

Buy a filefish and your aptasia problems will be solved… (crap.. and corals get eaten..)

Do regular 10% water changes every 2 weeks and you won’t need to add any supplements… (well that didn’t work.. 4.5 DKH)
 
Personally, I enjoy the abundance of advice given by those that have no coral or maybe just one and yet are so self-assured in their knowledge and expertise. Not a single picture to demonstrate their success or logic
 
Personally, I enjoy the abundance of advice given by those that have no coral or maybe just one and yet are so self-assured in their knowledge and expertise. Not a single picture to demonstrate their success or logic

Agreed! Whenever I ask a question on here I ask for personal experience.
 
I'm beginning to like this thread:D
 
"LET ER RIP" - Both the water and fish.

Worst advise = "Sure you'll love the bio-cube. It's more than enough tank and you won't upgrade".
Nature's ocean baby! That line too lol
 
Personally, I enjoy the abundance of advice given by those that have no coral or maybe just one and yet are so self-assured in their knowledge and expertise. Not a single picture to demonstrate their success or logic
totally agreed with you on that one..those people are JOKE..
 
Personally, I enjoy the abundance of advice given by those that have no coral or maybe just one and yet are so self-assured in their knowledge and expertise. Not a single picture to demonstrate their success or logic

This a million times!!!!! Show me the money. Go look at the person giving the advises tank, it's easily done.

you dont need a skimmer

Newer hobbyist should invest in a skimmer, but you can get by with low nutrient introduction, routine water changes and consistent chemistry. Yeah I have a skimmer currently, but I have run sps dominate tanks without skimmers. You've got to know your limitations and a skimmer offers more room for error, but on is not essential.


 
question:

if MACNA convention tanks are skip cycled, setup instantly using rules of transfer biology, my question is>

1. what does that say about cycling options
2. is that reserved only for pros, and not avail to anyone other than MACNA tank entrants? Not to be rogue, but skip cycling isn't just for breaking rules it can help when moving tanks, hospital tanks emergency ect. Clearly there are pro people skip cycling, Im wondering why we haven't just simply outlined the steps for all to consider, Im not sure waiting 9 arbitrary weeks with API ammonia tests in tow has done us well for cycling overall.

Recall these pros aren't taking 20K in bounce mushrooms over to insta reefs only for 25% of them to fail, or mini cycle...they are skip cycling 100% of the time, people read about it on the boards, im not sure information withholding is the right technique. imo better to explain and give options, and choose options based on outcomes. I realize a new keeper might not be able to predict/anticipate new tank issues, but its a fair statement that the traditional cycling methods (my pet peeve intro here) isn't working for the masses.

My worst advice that I read about and dislike: cycling has stages of algae that -may- come and go, you leave it in place to hopefully go. Cycling is for bacteria, algae is for algae. if you want to be on that roulette wheel, leave algae in the tank at any stage :) and -hopefully- it w not create lasting seed issues in your tank.

The only reason I think a new tank keeper should even consider skirting rules is when they have pro test kits in tow, a specific goal, and they begin this as an aspect of tank control not just waiting for outcome...to me calculated rule breaking imparts confidence and tank control to new keepers, just my take.
 
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I know I've only been doing this for two years, and I am not some who is advanced or even intermediate. However, someone about 6 months into starting told me if I added Prime I would never have to do a water change. I was also told that all peppermint shrimp are reef safe. I lost a palm tree coral, all my mushrooms, some of a frogspawn, and it started on my candy cane before I tossed it out in the yard. Just kidding, I took it back to the LFS but that was the point where I said I'm just going to be a tight wad with coral and only grow hardy cheap ones from now on lol And it was 100% not a camel shrimp.
 
question:

if MACNA convention tanks are skip cycled, setup instantly using rules of transfer biology, my question is>

1. what does that say about cycling options
2. is that reserved only for pros, and not avail to anyone other than MACNA tank entrants? Not to be rogue, but skip cycling isn't just for breaking rules it can help when moving tanks, hospital tanks emergency ect. Clearly there are pro people skip cycling, Im wondering why we haven't just simply outlined the steps for all to consider, Im not sure waiting 9 arbitrary weeks with API ammonia tests in tow has done us well for cycling overall.

Recall these pros aren't taking 20K in bounce mushrooms over to insta reefs only for 25% of them to fail, or mini cycle...they are skip cycling 100% of the time, people read about it on the boards, im not sure information withholding is the right technique. imo better to explain and give options, and choose options based on outcomes. I realize a new keeper might not be able to predict/anticipate new tank issues, but its a fair statement that the traditional cycling methods (my pet peeve intro here) isn't working for the masses.

My worst advice that I read about and dislike: cycling has stages of algae that -may- come and go, you leave it in place to hopefully go. Cycling is for bacteria, algae is for algae. if you want to be on that roulette wheel, leave it in the tank at any stage :)


Great question.

With regard to MACNA or similar shows, the tank are set up for 3-4 days, use of bacteria in a bottle, limited feedings, and cured live rock all work in their favor.

You and I have both been at this long enough to know the variables and nuances of a tank starting to have a cycle issue, what live stock to add when and why. How to feed, water changes......all those variables that come in to play.

For those on the learning curve it's best to make generalizations, and then adjust the recipe as needed. Go with what is a known process, as you gain experience you can change those variables, but lets not make it too complicated or overwhelming for someone that has never before cycled a tank, recognizes the issue with the nitrogen cycle. All tanks will cycle with patience and little loss to live stock if you go by the book methods, this relates to less stress to the newer hobbyist and a more successful experience.

JM2C
 
My 1st tank build I was also told to use a check valve and I would never have a flood when the power goes out,

I was also told a Kenya Tree coral was a great addition to my reef tank.......
 
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question:

if MACNA convention tanks are skip cycled, setup instantly using rules of transfer biology, my question is>

1. what does that say about cycling options
2. is that reserved only for pros, and not avail to anyone other than MACNA tank entrants? Not to be rogue, but skip cycling isn't just for breaking rules it can help when moving tanks, hospital tanks emergency ect. Clearly there are pro people skip cycling, Im wondering why we haven't just simply outlined the steps for all to consider, Im not sure waiting 9 arbitrary weeks with API ammonia tests in tow has done us well for cycling overall.

Recall these pros aren't taking 20K in bounce mushrooms over to insta reefs only for 25% of them to fail, or mini cycle...they are skip cycling 100% of the time, people read about it on the boards, im not sure information withholding is the right technique. imo better to explain and give options, and choose options based on outcomes. I realize a new keeper might not be able to predict/anticipate new tank issues, but its a fair statement that the traditional cycling methods (my pet peeve intro here) isn't working for the masses.

My worst advice that I read about and dislike: cycling has stages of algae that -may- come and go, you leave it in place to hopefully go. Cycling is for bacteria, algae is for algae. if you want to be on that roulette wheel, leave algae in the tank at any stage :) and -hopefully- it w not create lasting seed issues in your tank.

The only reason I think a new tank keeper should even consider skirting rules is when they have pro test kits in tow, a specific goal, and they begin this as an aspect of tank control not just waiting for outcome...to me calculated rule breaking imparts confidence and tank control to new keepers, just my take.

1. They are likely using liverock that has already cycled.
 
My 1st tank build I was also told to use a check valve and I would never have a flood when the power goes out,

I was also told a Kenya Tree coral was a great addition to my reef tank.......

lol on the kenya tree....had a harder time getting rid of that then aptatia
 

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