Amphidinium Dinoflagellate Treatment Methods

[saltyhog]

The low range phosphate checker, HI713.

Wrong one, that one won't detect levels in the range we want to measure. Get the phosphate ULR or phosphorous ULR. (774 or 736)

 

[Neoalchemist]

The low range phosphate checker, HI713.

I hate to say it but that checker doesn't have high enough resolution in the test range needed or rather accuracy at the correct resolution. These are Hanna specs for the low range checker.
+/_ .04 ppm so your meter could show 0.00 and you still have 0.04 ppm po4

 

[Neoalchemist]

Here's the specs for the ULR phosphate checker

 

[Idoc]

I've struggled with low phosphate in the tank. Still tests 0 (Hanna Checker) even after dosing NeoPhos and heavy feedings, but tank is now overrun with hair algae and the dinos. Seems like the tank has plenty of phosphate. Do I still need to get to detectable levels on the test?

Yes, keep dosing PO4. This is the same thing that happened to me. But eventually, the system equalized and the PO4 started sticking around. Then, i was able to stop dosing it. Im holding steady with around 0.2ppm po4 and haven't dosed in a couple of months.

 

[Jameseywayney]

So my Dinos are completely gone! yay!

Now I'm wanting to resume water changes and start cleaning up some of the GHA and cyano that came as a result of "dirtying" the tank. I dont want a relapse though, so i'm wondering should i wait a couple more weeks to start water changes or do them now? I can tell my coral aren't the happiest without water changes and all the treatments and whatnot in the tank.

 

[Entz]

Yes, keep dosing PO4. This is the same thing that happened to me. But eventually, the system equalized and the PO4 started sticking around. Then, i was able to stop dosing it. Im holding steady with around 0.2ppm po4 and haven't dosed in a couple of months.

Same thing happened to me. Rocks are notorious for binding Phosphate as well so you may very well be reading 0 due to it getting consumed/binded and then once it hits a point it will start moving.

 

[Entz]

So my Dinos are completely gone! yay!

Now I'm wanting to resume water changes and start cleaning up some of the GHA and cyano that came as a result of "dirtying" the tank. I dont want a relapse though, so i'm wondering should i wait a couple more weeks to start water changes or do them now? I can tell my coral aren't the happiest without water changes and all the treatments and whatnot in the tank.

Awesome! I would do water changes and manual removal. Just keep an eye on it as you may be removing the consumers and not replacing them can lead to another outbreak. Killing or stressing your corals isn't worth it imo. I personally didn't see any real difference between doing water changes and not.

 

[Marlon C]

I think I got the dino beat with uv. Sand is clean now. Finally

 

[Alexreefer]

I have been fighting what I thought was diatoms for 5 months until my teacher was able to id my dinos as amphidimium? Is that how you spell it? I know uv does nothing against this. What can I do to get rid of these dinos? Was not able to get pics from the microscope. I have some pics of stringy dinos floating in the water after scrubbing the rocks I can post. Any help is appreciated

 

[Jameseywayney]

I have been fighting what I thought was diatoms for 5 months until my teacher was able to id my dinos as amphidimium? Is that how you spell it? I know uv does nothing against this. What can I do to get rid of these dinos? Was not able to get pics from the microscope. I have some pics of stringy dinos floating in the water after scrubbing the rocks I can post. Any help is appreciated

Are you sure it's amphidinium? Probably best to post photos to be positive unless you're already running UV or traditional Dino treatment without success.

 

[dwest]

So my Dinos are completely gone! yay!

Now I'm wanting to resume water changes and start cleaning up some of the GHA and cyano that came as a result of "dirtying" the tank. I dont want a relapse though, so i'm wondering should i wait a couple more weeks to start water changes or do them now? I can tell my coral aren't the happiest without water changes and all the treatments and whatnot in the tank.

Water changes had no effect on my amphidinium.

 

[Jameseywayney]

Dinos 100% gone! I am so excited, I did my first water change in months yesterday. My coral are starting to look happy again and I'm able to clean up all my GHA and actually get excited about this hobby again.

 

[dwest]

Dinos 100% gone! I am so excited, I did my first water change in months yesterday. My coral are starting to look happy again and I'm able to clean up all my GHA and actually get excited about this hobby again.

Nice!

 

[Victoria M]

Dinos 100% gone! I am so excited, I did my first water change in months yesterday. My coral are starting to look happy again and I'm able to clean up all my GHA and actually get excited about this hobby again.

very pretty tank!

 

[Alexreefer]

Are you sure it's amphidinium? Probably best to post photos to be positive unless you're already running UV or traditional Dino treatment without success.

I am running a 27 w Uv. No use. Done treatments for other dinos but no use. the dinos do not have bubbles but come off rocks easily and create mats when left to grow

 

[Dsantamaria29]

Good evening,

I am current experiencing an Amphidinium outbreak in my reef. Per this forum I started to dose Nitrate, phosphate and Silicate. My question is, prior to my starting of treatment in my sand sampling’s I did not see any diatoms. Will I still be able to achieve a population or will I need to seed them? Also any other advice fighting this would be appreciated!

 

[taricha]

I think I got the dino beat with uv. Sand is clean now. Finally

FYI For those following along, Marlon’s was not amphidinium, but ostreopsis. Don’t expect uv to do the heavy lifting in this thread.

Is this ostreopsis? Any help!!)?!??! Thanks

 

[taricha]

Good evening,

I am current experiencing an Amphidinium outbreak in my reef. Per this forum I started to dose Nitrate, phosphate and Silicate. My question is, prior to my starting of treatment in my sand sampling’s I did not see any diatoms. Will I still be able to achieve a population or will I need to seed them? Also any other advice fighting this would be appreciated!

Diatoms are universal in reefs. You need not add them. They will be present.

 

[Auburn866]

I am SO glad I found this thread. I have a 3 month old tank and thought I was battling diatoms and Cyano. Confirmed Dino, pretty sure its amphidinium with a microscope today. Unfortunately I lost both of my clownfish to brook a couple of weeks ago so I'm running fallow for a couple of months. My nitrates are sitting at 2, and I am running a protein skimmer wet. I have been spot feeding my coral twice weekly with Mysis shrimp. Since I've confirmed Dino, how should I be feeding? Am I ok to continue spot feeding Mysis shrimp? Should I start ghost feeding NLS pellets as well to raise nitrates? My Dino is 80% in the sand, with some on the pumps, rock and glass. I have been blowing the sand and rocks daily with a turkey baster and catching what I can in a fine mesh net. I have also been running a small UV, I was going to upgrade to a larger one but after reading this thread that might be a waste...

 

[saltyhog]

I am SO glad I found this thread. I have a 3 month old tank and thought I was battling diatoms and Cyano. Confirmed Dino, pretty sure its amphidinium with a microscope today. Unfortunately I lost both of my clownfish to brook a couple of weeks ago so I'm running fallow for a couple of months. My nitrates are sitting at 2, and I am running a protein skimmer wet. I have been spot feeding my coral twice weekly with Mysis shrimp. Since I've confirmed Dino, how should I be feeding? Am I ok to continue spot feeding Mysis shrimp? Should I start ghost feeding NLS pellets as well to raise nitrates? My Dino is 80% in the sand, with some on the pumps, rock and glass. I have been blowing the sand and rocks daily with a turkey baster and catching what I can in a fine mesh net. I have also been running a small UV, I was going to upgrade to a larger one but after reading this thread that might be a waste...

I would rather keep NO3 up using inorganic nitrate rather than over feeding. Over feeding can fuel dinos in some cases IMO. What kind of corals do you have?