Be taken seriously!! Post those tanks!!

You also got to take in situations like mine. I have been running reef tanks four four years at the peak my tank looked like this
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What caused the crash?

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Due to lack of diligence my tank crashed and I lost almost everything now my tank looks like this
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So, personally I think you should judge experience buy the amount of time the person has been in the hobby and the animals that they have kept, things that they have run, and experiences they have had.
 
Here's a couple thoughts.
Dont believe anything you read on the internet.
Trust is earned.
Dont let a 12 year old convo with strangers on the internet(buy them a book and encourage them by participating in their interests"parenting")
Some people like to help people because its what they do. Try to help people.
To err is human.
Common sense isn't.
Some people open their mouths without thinking because its what they do.
Judge a man by his heart not his accomplishments.
Internet forums and facebook use stimulate schizophrenic brain activities(arguing with imaginary voices and situations...google it)
Life is a beach and then you die or buy a reef tank
Dont get a mandarin or a lux meter. Most people don know much about either really.
To err is human.

May the force be with you.
 
I agree with the original poster.

I am the experienced 'reef expert'.

What's my ability to say that. I have been keeping saltwater aquariums for over 35 years. I have kept just about every type of saltwater fish and coral at one time or another.

I have worked in a fish store, I have started a company that builds custom saltwater aquariums, I have started a transhipping business, I have started and run a frag farm, I have traveled the world to teach people how to collect and ship corals, I have owned collection stations, I have run a very successful wholesale coral business, I have run my local reef club, and I have been invited to speak at clubs across the country as well as conventions.

Oh, and to keep up with topic of the thread, heres a photo from October.
FTS All - October 16, 2015.jpg


I have the experience, the knowledge, and the photo - I feel confident calling myself a 'Reef Expert'.

For those reading this post, and just itching to try to challenge me, you can find my posts all across the internet. I have shared my many successes in this hobby, and have also posted my many failures and tank crashes.

Now I am only calling myself a 'Reef Expert' because that title has become part of the topic of this thread. But if you meet me, I'm just Dave B, I'm a hobbyist and I am a coral addict.

I'm pretty active on numerous forums and facebook. And I am probably capable of being able to answer the vast majority of questions people post looking for help, guidance, experience.

But I read a thread with people 'Telling What Needs To Be Done', regurgitating someone else's opinion and speaking with such authority it makes me ill. And people that speak with such authority and sometime condescendion (Not sure how to spell that exactly), should be able to back that attitude up with some proof of success.

You should have some accomplishment in this hobby and be proud of it. You don't have to have a 200g tank with wall to wall exotic corals. But show me a well kept tank, with something in it thriving that isn't bryopsis or coraline. Have at least one thing in your tank that is growing, and mutliplying and flourishing - because you have built a great aquarium and are able to maintain it.

People should know the reach of their knowledge. People with a 40g tank (whether successful or not) should not be giving advice to someone asking for help on flow and plumbing for a 400g tank - No your China made knock off pump that has only been in the market, with a poor track record for 12 months is not applicable to a 400g tank.

But this is what happens 1000s of time a day on every popular forum. There are very few experts who post their knowledge. There are a few, and I don't have to name names, who are diligent in their attempt to help as many people as possible.

But for some of us, it's frustrating (if not infuriating) to constantly have our opinion condemned by multiple people who have not been in this hobby long enough to go through a full box of salt.

All of us, including myself, come to the forums to try to increase our knowledge so that we can take better care of our aquariums. Whether equipment, corals or fish, we all want to learn more to keep our livestock happier and living longer.

And in this modern world, where everyone with a screen name has the equal ability to post their opinion and give instruction, I do want to be able see if the person posting really has the experience or knowledge to point me in the right direction.

Dave B
 
I agree with the original poster.

I am the experienced 'reef expert'.

What's my ability to say that. I have been keeping saltwater aquariums for over 35 years. I have kept just about every type of saltwater fish and coral at one time or another.

I have worked in a fish store, I have started a company that builds custom saltwater aquariums, I have started a transhipping business, I have started and run a frag farm, I have traveled the world to teach people how to collect and ship corals, I have owned collection stations, I have run a very successful wholesale coral business, I have run my local reef club, and I have been invited to speak at clubs across the country as well as conventions.

Oh, and to keep up with topic of the thread, heres a photo from October.
FTS All - October 16, 2015.jpg


I have the experience, the knowledge, and the photo - I feel confident calling myself a 'Reef Expert'.

For those reading this post, and just itching to try to challenge me, you can find my posts all across the internet. I have shared my many successes in this hobby, and have also posted my many failures and tank crashes.

Now I am only calling myself a 'Reef Expert' because that title has become part of the topic of this thread. But if you meet me, I'm just Dave B, I'm a hobbyist and I am a coral addict.

I'm pretty active on numerous forums and facebook. And I am probably capable of being able to answer the vast majority of questions people post looking for help, guidance, experience.

But I read a thread with people 'Telling What Needs To Be Done', regurgitating someone else's opinion and speaking with such authority it makes me ill. And people that speak with such authority and sometime condescendion (Not sure how to spell that exactly), should be able to back that attitude up with some proof of success.

You should have some accomplishment in this hobby and be proud of it. You don't have to have a 200g tank with wall to wall exotic corals. But show me a well kept tank, with something in it thriving that isn't bryopsis or coraline. Have at least one thing in your tank that is growing, and mutliplying and flourishing - because you have built a great aquarium and are able to maintain it.

People should know the reach of their knowledge. People with a 40g tank (whether successful or not) should not be giving advice to someone asking for help on flow and plumbing for a 400g tank - No your China made knock off pump that has only been in the market, with a poor track record for 12 months is not applicable to a 400g tank.

But this is what happens 1000s of time a day on every popular forum. There are very few experts who post their knowledge. There are a few, and I don't have to name names, who are diligent in their attempt to help as many people as possible.

But for some of us, it's frustrating (if not infuriating) to constantly have our opinion condemned by multiple people who have not been in this hobby long enough to go through a full box of salt.

All of us, including myself, come to the forums to try to increase our knowledge so that we can take better care of our aquariums. Whether equipment, corals or fish, we all want to learn more to keep our livestock happier and living longer.

And in this modern world, where everyone with a screen name has the equal ability to post their opinion and give instruction, I do want to be able see if the person posting really has the experience or knowledge to point me in the right direction.

Dave B
Hi Dave,we would love to see you post more often
 
I agree with the original poster.

I am the experienced 'reef expert'.

What's my ability to say that. I have been keeping saltwater aquariums for over 35 years. I have kept just about every type of saltwater fish and coral at one time or another.

I have worked in a fish store, I have started a company that builds custom saltwater aquariums, I have started a transhipping business, I have started and run a frag farm, I have traveled the world to teach people how to collect and ship corals, I have owned collection stations, I have run a very successful wholesale coral business, I have run my local reef club, and I have been invited to speak at clubs across the country as well as conventions.

Oh, and to keep up with topic of the thread, heres a photo from October.
FTS All - October 16, 2015.jpg


I have the experience, the knowledge, and the photo - I feel confident calling myself a 'Reef Expert'.

For those reading this post, and just itching to try to challenge me, you can find my posts all across the internet. I have shared my many successes in this hobby, and have also posted my many failures and tank crashes.

Now I am only calling myself a 'Reef Expert' because that title has become part of the topic of this thread. But if you meet me, I'm just Dave B, I'm a hobbyist and I am a coral addict.

I'm pretty active on numerous forums and facebook. And I am probably capable of being able to answer the vast majority of questions people post looking for help, guidance, experience.

But I read a thread with people 'Telling What Needs To Be Done', regurgitating someone else's opinion and speaking with such authority it makes me ill. And people that speak with such authority and sometime condescendion (Not sure how to spell that exactly), should be able to back that attitude up with some proof of success.

You should have some accomplishment in this hobby and be proud of it. You don't have to have a 200g tank with wall to wall exotic corals. But show me a well kept tank, with something in it thriving that isn't bryopsis or coraline. Have at least one thing in your tank that is growing, and mutliplying and flourishing - because you have built a great aquarium and are able to maintain it.

People should know the reach of their knowledge. People with a 40g tank (whether successful or not) should not be giving advice to someone asking for help on flow and plumbing for a 400g tank - No your China made knock off pump that has only been in the market, with a poor track record for 12 months is not applicable to a 400g tank.

But this is what happens 1000s of time a day on every popular forum. There are very few experts who post their knowledge. There are a few, and I don't have to name names, who are diligent in their attempt to help as many people as possible.

But for some of us, it's frustrating (if not infuriating) to constantly have our opinion condemned by multiple people who have not been in this hobby long enough to go through a full box of salt.

All of us, including myself, come to the forums to try to increase our knowledge so that we can take better care of our aquariums. Whether equipment, corals or fish, we all want to learn more to keep our livestock happier and living longer.

And in this modern world, where everyone with a screen name has the equal ability to post their opinion and give instruction, I do want to be able see if the person posting really has the experience or knowledge to point me in the right direction.

Dave B
But what if I grow bryopsis to find a meaningful solution to it besides the common (nutrients are too high)?
I dont have valued information because you will see it in my tank even though I put it there?
 
Also what's your thought about my knowledge seeing this ;)
Yes that is my tank 1453685437760197283135.jpg
 
But what if I grow bryopsis to find a meaningful solution to it besides the common (nutrients are too high)?
I dont have valued information because you will see it in my tank even though I put it there?

I really really do not think that was what he was inferring.

This topic did not include experimental tanks or research tanks imo, it was addressing the average mixed reef.
 
I really really do not think that was what he was inferring.

This topic did not include experimental tanks or research tanks imo, it was addressing the average mixed reef.
You know me well :-)
 
Been keeping fish for almost my entire life (33 years), been in saltwater for over a decade. I have a build thread but the tank has hit a few bumps lately, so I guess since it's not thriving and successful atm I can't post any advice to others. Come on man, ppl can post any experiences and thoughts they want regardless of how their own tanks look. People disagree all the time, but because their idea is against yours doesn't mean the end all to their advice is "well how is your tank look?"

If you don't like what someone else has to say, simply ignore it or have a civil discussion about how your points differ from theirs. That's what forums are for :)
 
Here's a couple thoughts.
Dont believe anything you read on the internet.
Trust is earned.
Dont let a 12 year old convo with strangers on the internet(buy them a book and encourage them by participating in their interests"parenting")
Some people like to help people because its what they do. Try to help people.
To err is human.
Common sense isn't.
Some people open their mouths without thinking because its what they do.
Judge a man by his heart not his accomplishments.
Internet forums and facebook use stimulate schizophrenic brain activities(arguing with imaginary voices and situations...google it)
Life is a beach and then you die or buy a reef tank
Dont get a mandarin or a lux meter. Most people don know much about either really.
To err is human.

May the force be with you.
I have a mandarin :p but only because a friend that just got into the hobby bought one because the guy at LFS said it "would do fine" then he researched his impulse buy after the fact and asked me to take it from him. Otherwise I wouldn't :)
 
Ok heres my tanks

My profile pic (when it still had water lol)


My 92 gallon (that currently has water in it)


A couple other pics because now you have me logged into photobucket
My lonely acro for the longest time (I now have a few more)




Now by these it shows I don't have some super tank and what would I know about plumbing a big tank as stated by an expert hmmm what I didn't show as I no longer have it

it grew stuff like this


Showing what someones current tank is now don't mean that's as far as there knowledge goes. My tank fits my budget and will get there eventually as long as I stop buying green corals lol but that's my point
 
Been keeping fish for almost my entire life (33 years), been in saltwater for over a decade. I have a build thread but the tank has hit a few bumps lately, so I guess since it's not thriving and successful atm I can't post any advice to others. Come on man, ppl can post any experiences and thoughts they want regardless of how their own tanks look. People disagree all the time, but because their idea is against yours doesn't mean the end all to their advice is "well how is your tank look?"

If you don't like what someone else has to say, simply ignore it or have a civil discussion about how your points differ from theirs. That's what forums are for :)

Totally missing the point. I'm talking about the people that have no idea what they're talking about and are seriously not qualified to do so yelling and screaming just for the sake of trying to be the one who can yell the loudest.

This thread wasn't picking at anyone in particular.. And actually R2R is (as stated previously) is the best when it comes to this. But if anyone feels like it's picking at YOU spicificly than maybe you're guilty of giving advice in areas you don't have any business giving? You all either know the type I'm talking about or are the type I'm talking about. I'm not sure there's much of an in the middle.

I've been a member here forever.. When Facebook grew I naturally just went that way along with the wave. Recently I realized that the people I'm referring to (over there!) is the rule and not the exception.. Between that and no record of a conversation for the next guy having the same problem.. That is why I've become more active here and far less there.
 
Ok heres my tanks

My profile pic (when it still had water lol)


My 92 gallon (that currently has water in it)


A couple other pics because now you have me logged into photobucket
My lonely acro for the longest time (I now have a few more)




Now by these it shows I don't have some super tank and what would I know about plumbing a big tank as stated by an expert hmmm what I didn't show as I no longer have it

it grew stuff like this


Showing what someones current tank is now don't mean that's as far as there knowledge goes. My tank fits my budget and will get there eventually as long as I stop buying green corals lol but that's my point


Post them in the member tanks section ;)
 
I am pretty sure you are not picking on me and if you are go ahead I can take it lol. I was just trying to point out that a current tank pick really don't mean much IMO. I know the type of people you are talking about and I will state my opinion if I think they are wrong or stating something that is not completely accurate. Then if they get upset and start yelling I just leave them be. I stated my part the rest is what it is.
 
The little nano is in the nano section but the tank is empty now and so is my old 200 gal. Now its just the 92 (going to make the nano a sea horse tank eventually) when I get a better camera I might post them to the members tank section but honestly I have been toying with the idea of a 180 in the near future so.......... to be continued lol
 
I am pretty sure you are not picking on me and if you are go ahead I can take it lol. I was just trying to point out that a current tank pick really don't mean much IMO. I know the type of people you are talking about and I will state my opinion if I think they are wrong or stating something that is not completely accurate. Then if they get upset and start yelling I just leave them be. I stated my part the rest is what it is.


Go on Facebook.. Go to a group called Addictive Reef Keeping.. Ask a couple questions. You'll see pretty quickly the people I'm talking about!
 
I have a mandarin :p but only because a friend that just got into the hobby bought one because the guy at LFS said it "would do fine" then he researched his impulse buy after the fact and asked me to take it from him. Otherwise I wouldn't :)
I've had mandarins the entire time I've had reef tanks but you will face a fire storm if you post about it.from some some actual experts. I give very very very careful advice about them And even then I get flack from the experts and also loud mouths who want to be right. Sometimes they think they are right.
I have a lux meter too I have been giving advice on using one. I have been blasted for it. I have 23 other light meters use meters the cost of a car and have explained how a camera and par meter actually works and have been ignored in favor of use a piece of paper upside down behind the tank to get white balance. I've been in lighting and camera for 25 years and trained by the people who make the cameras.
We can not advertise our skills. We cannot prove our skills. People make their own choices and form their own opinions. Regardless of fact quite often. Quite often in favor of what appears to be someone more qualified. Likes points? Badges picture?
To those who truly care they will find their way. Reefs and fish are a path.
We can try to influence people to try to find their own path and to consider other views and perhaps make different choices.

The op has done that quite successfully for many of the regular members of the community with this thread and I would assume had the same done for them in observing the responses.
Kinda cool really.

Nanu nanu
 
Totally missing the point. I'm talking about the people that have no idea what they're talking about and are seriously not qualified to do so yelling and screaming just for the sake of trying to be the one who can yell the loudest.

This thread wasn't picking at anyone in particular.. And actually R2R is (as stated previously) is the best when it comes to this. But if anyone feels like it's picking at YOU spicificly than maybe you're guilty of giving advice in areas you don't have any business giving? You all either know the type I'm talking about or are the type I'm talking about. I'm not sure there's much of an in the middle.

I've been a member here forever.. When Facebook grew I naturally just went that way along with the wave. Recently I realized that the people I'm referring to (over there!) is the rule and not the exception.. Between that and no record of a conversation for the next guy having the same problem.. That is why I've become more active here and far less there.
Ya kinda made a broad statement and hurt some people's feelings.
 
Go on Facebook.. Go to a group called Addictive Reef Keeping.. Ask a couple questions. You'll see pretty quickly the people I'm talking about!

LOL I am sure your right as far as facebook I stick to my locals Duval Reefkeepers friendly and great advise and if they get snippy with me I know where they live lol
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
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