RR Sunset Milli---- Really?? C'mon Man!
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WesF
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Maricultured Millis from Bali have been coming in looking very nice with interesting color variations. I find it both amusing and frustrating that people have started naming them and charging so much when they are so readily available and cheap from the wholesaler.
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+1 very well put. I personally think that forums lose value if all that is heard is the positive. One of the biggest values of a forum is learning what other people know and learning from mistakes and what to stay away from. Otherwise why have a forum if it doesn't help me make valuable decisions and avoid mistakes? If it is all sunshine and rainbows that is not very valuable and you will start to lose cred.
RR overall has a great reputation for offering some amazing pieces. Maybe this one has something in person the pic isn't showing, but doubtful. I think it is good for businesses to be called out for shenanigans too. In a non-incendiary way of course.
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+1 I too am tired of the overhyped coral. Reeffarmer are trying to make that run of the milli sound like a fine French wine. "I aint broke, I just aint buyin"
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+1 Feel the same way.
Troylee
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I know he's not the originator he stated it a few times... But he has a old school one that is one of the hottest around IMHO... Who did bring into the game Rommel?? I miss his Sps man...
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Get on from Elan for locally for less than $15.00 I dont know if he ships .
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The Reefer831 BA milli is definitely a limited edition milli....even though it's really not. One of the nicest millis I have ever seen...ever!!!! That RR limited edition sunset milli will probably not be much of a money maker, hehehehe.
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+1 very well put. I personally think that forums lose value if all that is heard is the positive. One of the biggest values of a forum is learning what other people know and learning from mistakes and what to stay away from. Otherwise why have a forum if it doesn't help me make valuable decisions and avoid mistakes? If it is all sunshine and rainbows that is not very valuable and you will start to lose cred.
RR overall has a great reputation for offering some amazing pieces. Maybe this one has something in person the pic isn't showing, but doubtful. I think it is good for businesses to be called out for shenanigans too. In a non-incendiary way of course.
Tobasco, if only something as productive as what you describe was going on here.
As I mentioned, this coral isn't even for sale - it's a catalog/info page. Is the OP going to "save us" from looking at a catalog page? No, in fact reeffarmers.com's page count probably had a nice bump from R2R thanks to this thread.
FP was just complaining and moaning. If there's nothing productive to add to that story, then what's the point of just complaining about it? There are over-hyped corals with stupid names all over the internet - do we need a thread to point out every seller? Every coral? No. Why not post a link to someone selling the coral for what you think is a reasonable price instead of the compaint? Wouldn't that serve the purpose better? Besides, I think if someone is of the mind to spend "a lot of money" on a tiny little frag of coral (as we see happen often....not just at reeffarmers) in the first place, then something logical like a forum posting is not going to phase them anyway.
And as far as veracity, if someone is bothered so much by his claim, why not check the parent colony where Steve got the coral and find out how it's looking? He's posted in the the guy's name there...why not put this effort into finding out the latest about that instead of just complaining? Maybe they'd even send you a current pic, who knows. At least then there would be something useful or interesting to report - coral is sold, or bleached, or brightened up, or hey we have another variant, whatever...
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So I am the buyer of the 1st Edition RR Sunset Millepora and I found this thread to be quite interesting and everyone makes some good points. The picture at Steve's is pretty weak and shabby. The picture at RR is a bit more colorful but looks unnatural. In the end the coral itself in person looks like a sunset mille and it is one of several sunset milles out there and one of several I own. I like the coral and I am happy with what I paid. It is not my favorite mille, but I like it. Remember the page iteslef states what the List Price is on the coral and not what was actually paid. I look at it this way. When I collected baseball cards many years ago we would always run out and buy a box from each brand, there were three at the time, as soon as they became available. Regardless of the price and regardless of whether we even liked the brand, I never was a fan of Fleer, but I always got a box. We did it because you never know what can happen down the road. Might have an error card. Or one day that lame rookie who was underrated became a star. Corals are the same way, fads come and go and what is fancied now may not be later and may come back again.
Take Care and Enjoy your Corals!
Kurt
I look at it this way. When I collected baseball cards many years ago we would always run out and buy a box from each brand, there were three at the time, as soon as they became available. Regardless of the price and regardless of whether we even liked the brand, I never was a fan of Fleer, but I always got a box. We did it because you never know what can happen down the road. Might have an error card. Or one day that lame rookie who was underrated became a star. Corals are the same way, fads come and go and what is fancied now may not be later and may come back again. Take Care and Enjoy your Corals!
Kurt 
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Completely false, have you seen my pictures of it? The polyps were bright orange-juice colored. Unfortunately I lost mine also. In general, I'm a huge skeptic of the "insane LE corals" until I see them in person. The Orange Passion was the real deal.
So I am the buyer of the 1st Edition RR Sunset Millepora and I found this thread to be quite interesting and everyone makes some good points. The picture at Steve's is pretty weak and shabby. The picture at RR is a bit more colorful but looks unnatural. In the end the coral itself in person looks like a sunset mille and it is one of several sunset milles out there and one of several I own. I like the coral and I am happy with what I paid. It is not my favorite mille, but I like it. Remember the page iteslef states what the List Price is on the coral and not what was actually paid.
Take Care and Enjoy your Corals!
Well said sir.I paid $175 for the Grinch Montipora from Tyree and never had a regret.It was barely 1/2 inch.I wanted the lineage and that coral so the cost was only a bothersome obstacle getting in my way.This has been said a few million times before but my take is:If you do not like something for sale or the price,do not buy it.Spend your efforts in finding what you want for the price you wish to pay.Often times,what is done is,Slandering or putting down a business that has the ability to grow and market it.This does no harm to them and more importantly did no good for plantiff.
I think that if you want to purchase a coral and spend big bucks than that is your decision..too each his own, who are we to tell you otherwise??
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A Tyree coral and a maricultured coral are not the same. Steve Tyree is a well respected reefer that has taken his time, knowledge, and money to adapt this strain to optimum aquarium needs. I believe his frags deserve respect for that. Not to mention he is an author of some good books, you might want to read them if you can before knocking him down. There are many LE frags that deserve the same respect in the same way; ORA, Steve Garrett, Leng Sy. If their name is legitimately on it, to me that means something. Dan Rigle has some amazing corals. If i had one i would brag to my friend that i have "Dan Rigles so and so acro". And since my friend aren't numbskulls they would probably drool because they know that came from a great reefer.
On the flip side there are dishonest reefer out there that will tag LE names on their unknown frags to try to make an extra buck. I have no respect for these people. And i might even enjoy calling them out time to time.
There is a place for coral names and a place for species names and i hope you can all realize the difference some day.
On the flip side there are dishonest reefer out there that will tag LE names on their unknown frags to try to make an extra buck. I have no respect for these people. And i might even enjoy calling them out time to time.
There is a place for coral names and a place for species names and i hope you can all realize the difference some day.
WesF
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He used to be very well respected, but lately has been giving the "LE" tag to some corals that have only been in captivity for a few months. That is the point of this thread. "LE" used to mean something but some of the newer LE's are not much different than what you get from a mariculture transshipment.
As an owner of many classic Tyree LE corals I am pretty disappointed that he is so quick to pull out his "LE" stamp now.
He now gives the coral the LE name and doesn't even keep a piece for himself to grow out as a mother colony.
People send him frags, then it's Name and sell, name and sell. No more propagation.
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Troylee
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^^^^^^^ this..... It's just not the same anymore.... I think he gets paid now a days to tag it... But honestly I see these threads all the time with the same outcome.... I'll leave it at that...
I'm sorry bro but what you wrote may have been true some 6-7 years ago but it's hardly the case now. There is seemingly a new "LE" every week, or so it seems...To me Tyree is no different than any other internet vendor out there who is just trying to make a buck. I would never buy anything from him lol. Just looking at his buy it now page is laughable; talk about boogers. Only thing different with him is for some reason he has people willing to send him their corals just so he can stamp his name on it, thus boosting the corals appeal and obv the price.
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